AFI Performance Flash Batch

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AFI Performance Flash Batch Yes or No?

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No
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Baron Mind » Sat Jun 15, 2019 8:57 am

AFI K390 Delica?! Sal, you never cease to amaze. I've no problem waiting for the k390.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby captnvegtble » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:01 am

sal wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 8:40 pm
The Delica is the current plan. I've got a drawing, now to see if the maker can get to the odd specs. Very thin edge, high hollow grind, high hardness steel, etc.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby captnvegtble » Sat Jun 15, 2019 9:02 am

sal wrote:
Fri Jun 14, 2019 9:34 pm
Any suggestions on steel? My first thought was K390, but they aren't planning on making any until OCT '19, though we probably won't have the design finalized until then.

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Super Blue would be awesome in thinner stock as well.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby xceptnl » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:00 am

My vote would be to wait for K390 but I am also perfectly happy seeing this knife in Superblue or AEB-L.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby DirtMcGirt » Sat Jun 15, 2019 11:09 am

Yes! So this is actually going to happen!!?

K390 is quite alright with me. Even if there is a longer wait. Although I would still be happy with any of the Japan/Hitachi steels. It’s that high/full hollow I am really after.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Trp2080 » Sat Jun 15, 2019 4:44 pm

Been wanting a k390 spyder this one sounds perfect

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Airlsee » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:02 pm

At 30+ Spydies, and I am very much looking forward to this K390 AFI version being my first Delica! After the first run in the AFI version, I think a K390 sprint wharnie version in a flat grind would be fantastic, but I admit that I am totally getting ahead of myself.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby A.S.O.K.A » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:19 pm

Airlsee wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:02 pm
At 30+ Spydies, and I am very much looking forward to this K390 AFI version being my first Delica! After the first run in the AFI version, I think a K390 sprint wharnie version in a flat grind would be fantastic, but I admit that I am totally getting ahead of myself.
Who knows. If this becomes a success, maybe we can get that AFI wharnie delica
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby VashHash » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:20 pm

I'd buy a high hollow K390 delica.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby blueblur » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:23 pm

Definitely in for a k390 Delica. Looking forward to a high hardness, thin ground factory edge. Can we also get a darker blue handle? I’ve heard the police 4 lw may be coming with a darker blue handle and after seeing the recent m390 Delica, something close to that would be icing on the cake. Thanks Sal!

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby ZrowsN1s » Sat Jun 15, 2019 5:33 pm

K390 would be worth the wait. It's a great steel, it performs superbly in the Police 4 platform. I would love to see what it could do with a high hollow and .010bte grind. An inspired choice Sal.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby hambone56rx » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:43 am

A.S.O.K.A wrote:
Sat Jun 15, 2019 7:44 am
Hey Sal, I definitly hope to see more k390 in locking folders. I vote yes to K390 for this project. Hambone, I did an edge holding study with my Para3 in M4 and with some tough material cut hear and there as well as cutting the usual cardboard and rags, M4 held up for 61 days with the help of stropping once a week and no sharpening of any kind during that time.
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I saw that! Great to know. I watched the YT video. Thanks for sharing the information!

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Cambertree » Sun Jun 16, 2019 6:53 am

This is great news! Personally I'm happy to wait for K390.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby rabbitanarchy14 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:29 am

A.S.O.K.A wrote:
Thu Jun 13, 2019 5:10 pm
I think would go for a dragonfly or lil native to test the waters of an AFI piece. Knowing how I handle knives, I would say a smaller knife to start with is best for me
yes i would vote for a thinner stock lil native compression lock, with 30 degree edge grind no microbevel at .010.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby steelcity16 » Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:34 am

I am curious as to whether a TiCN coating would further improve the slicing performance of this model via added lubricity?

I've seen various sources say that coatings like DLC and TiCN decrease friction and that is actually why they don't coat the liners on the compression lock models, because the decreased friction where the lockup occurs increases the likelihood of lock failures.

So basically, since we are looking for a high performance slicing machine here, if TiCN will decrease friction and help it blast through cardboard and such, perhaps we should consider coating this new AFI model?

Especially if we go with K390, a corrosion prone steel.

This model in an earth tone FRN with TiCN coated K390 blade and liners would be a dream.

Maybe offer this first model in both coated and uncoated to appease both parties and to allow direct comparisons of slicing performance that can be used for helping decison making on future runs???
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Evil D » Sun Jun 16, 2019 8:39 am

steelcity16 wrote:
Sun Jun 16, 2019 7:34 am
I am curious as to whether a TiCN coating would further improve the slicing performance of this model via added lubricity?

I've seen various sources say that coatings like DLC and TiCN decrease friction and that is actually why they don't coat the liners on the compression lock models, because the decreased friction where the lockup occurs increases the likelihood of lock failures.

So basically, since we are looking for a high performance slicing machine here, if TiCN will decrease friction and help it blast through cardboard and such, perhaps we should consider coating this new AFI model?

Especially if we go with K390, a corrosion prone steel.

This model in an earth tone FRN with TiCN coated K390 blade and liners would be a dream.

Maybe offer this first model in both coated and uncoated to appease both parties and to allow direct comparisons of slicing performance that can be used for helping decison making on future runs???


I had a DLC Para 2 for a while and honestly I felt like the coating created drag when cutting boxes compared to a satin blade. Then again there seems to be a change in what they use or how they apply it because that knife looked like a chalk board, while my DLC Manix 2 and Autonomy have a more satin black sheen compared to the flat black Para 2. Maybe it was that difference.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Vivi » Sun Jun 16, 2019 9:11 am

I had the same experience with a DLC Para 2. Real noticeable when halving apples.

TiNi is slicker, though I don't think it's any slicker than satin finished blades. While it probably helps with corrosion resistance, I've rusted the blade on my black szabo folder. DLC is on an entirely different level in that respect, I've never rusted through DLC.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby VashHash » Sun Jun 16, 2019 1:07 pm

I've read that the finish of the blade is what causes differences in the DLC finish. If you polish the blade before DLC it'll be a polished finish. If you bead blast it'll be a matte finish. I wonder if TiNi is the same.

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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby ZrowsN1s » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:15 pm

I'd rather have a satin finish myself.
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Re: AFI Performance Flash Batch

Postby Baron Mind » Sun Jun 16, 2019 4:19 pm

I'm just not a fan of coated blades. Blade steel is beautiful to me. Let it shine!


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