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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby The Meat man » Tue May 08, 2018 2:35 pm

Deadboxhero wrote:
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What?

GIVE US MORE!!

That's exactly what I was thinking! What's wrong with more variety?!
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby Pelagic » Tue May 08, 2018 4:04 pm

All i know is I like exclusives. Too many? Never thought of it.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby xceptnl » Tue May 08, 2018 4:07 pm

twinboysdad wrote:
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It has cheapened the sprint runs IMO, maybe those with unlimited funds disagree
I agree. Exclusives were great when only a few dealers were offering them. Now that other forums, clubs and businesses are offering them the market seems flooded. The greedy inner child in me smiles thought, hopefully everyone will be short on funds when those surprise sprints that Sal likes to drop hit the shelves. In all honesty, if the exclusives were a combination I desired, I would still buy. I guess my wallet is fortunate that I don't usually share the tastes of the masses.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby MichaelScott » Tue May 08, 2018 4:23 pm

I don’t know that sprints and exclusives are connected in a sort of zero-sum way, i.e., more exclusives equal fewer sprints. Could be but maybe not. Given that, if there is a market for variety, then I’m all for it.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby Chopping Broccoli » Tue May 08, 2018 4:35 pm

I kinda think of Sprints and Exclusives as being the same thing. I understand the difference between the two but as the end user it all feels the same. A limited edition combination that is usually better than the standard stock offerings. I'm not sure how Sprints would detract from Exclusives or vice versa. I could see the case that too many sprints AND exclusives cheapens the standard stock offerings as the market is flooded with "special" versions.

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby bh49 » Tue May 08, 2018 4:54 pm

bearfacedkiller wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 11:48 am
I assume that the exclusives are a better deal. Spyderco has another company put up the capital to make it happen and the company gets a good price by buying a boatload of knives. Sounds like a win win. It also takes some of the risk away from Spyderco since some sprints don’t sell as well as others.
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This explains really well Spyderco's and dealers/distributors relations to exclusives and sprints.
From users point of view, it really doesn't matter as long as model available.
It doesn't matter for me as well. My favorite knives: CF Fluted N5 and ZDP Caly3. Both production, not sprints or exclusives. Probably it is matter only for collectors. My collector days are over :spyder:
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby attila » Tue May 08, 2018 5:57 pm

I rather like the idea of limiting exclusives, but only if it yields more sprint runs and flash batches.

Ever since MAP was increased, purchasing from anywhere other than the SFO is much more expensive than I'm usually comfortable with. I'll pay the premium for an exclusive that speaks to me, but I really wish there were more sprints so first responders/vererans/police can get limited edition knives at reasonable prices from the source.

Sprint runs are also more widely available, making them attainable to those not in the USA, and helping our over-seas friends sounds like a good idea.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby PayneTrain » Tue May 08, 2018 6:03 pm

Chopping Broccoli wrote: I kinda think of Sprints and Exclusives as being the same thing. I understand the difference between the two but as the end user it all feels the same.
Well the big difference is that an exclusive may be produced more than once, diluting the rarity for collector-types (I'm not one).
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I could see the case that too many sprints AND exclusives cheapens the standard stock offerings as the market is flooded with "special" versions.
I dunno, I think it's great to have so many out there that you can pretty much have whatever you want if you can find it. What it really does is make it gosh darn impossible to ever have a full collection! I can't even imagine!
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby holeshot » Tue May 08, 2018 6:36 pm

Keep them coming, variety is the spice of life! :)
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby embry386 » Tue May 08, 2018 9:24 pm

The large variety of sprints and exclusives are, for me, what makes this hobby fun -- the ability to collect many variants of a favorite model, to mix and match blades and scales, to eagerly anticipate what variants are coming next for that model.

If all that didn't exist, I wouldn't be nearly as into knife collecting as I am, and I would only have one or maybe two Spydies. Instead I have five, and two Byrds. Am hoping for a Native 5 M4 in that green G10 to show up next, that'd be nifty. Maybe I'll buy that saber ground one too and swap the blades, or buy the saber ground one regardless and swap it into the orange FRN handle I have lying around from the Cutlery Shoppe exclusive I bought awhile back. Dude this is so enjoyable, my only complaint (if any) is that there aren't ENOUGH exclusives. Some more damascus ones would be nice, and more black-coated blades, and a white FRN handle so I can dye it to whatever colors I want, and maybe hawkbill and wharncliffe variants... Basically I want Spyderco to make ALL THE KNIVES EVER PHYSICALLY POSSIBLE because they are awesome and the more there are the happier I am.

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby Darth_cholo » Wed May 09, 2018 12:34 am

Aren't exclusives just another form of offering sprints in the first place? It does take away from the rarity of sprints, but the only people who care are people who care about resale price. Like other said, they stop when they don't sell. It's nice being able to get a knife that has specs you like without paying a collector 3rd party prices.

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby Brock O Lee » Wed May 09, 2018 2:49 am

Chopping Broccoli wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 4:35 pm
I kinda think of Sprints and Exclusives as being the same thing. I understand the difference between the two but as the end user it all feels the same. A limited edition combination that is usually better than the standard stock offerings. I'm not sure how Sprints would detract from Exclusives or vice versa. I could see the case that too many sprints AND exclusives cheapens the standard stock offerings as the market is flooded with "special" versions.
I agree with my brother-from-another-mother.

Sprints and exclusives were fun when I still had a young and growing collection, but it has saturated to a point where I find it difficult to justify more variations.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby The Deacon » Wed May 09, 2018 2:49 am

Johnnie1801 wrote:
Tue May 08, 2018 8:35 am
There are so many exclusives coming out these days it's hard to keep track of them all yet I haven't seen a new sprint run come out in a while. Exclusives are great and all but they're not widely available like sprints. Any chance Spyderco could consider limiting distributors and vendors to 2 exclusives each per year and then concentrate resources and capacity on new designs and sprints?

Essentially, what you're suggesting is that Spyderco should limit the production of knives that are already bought and paid for, in order to produce models at their own expense which they can only hope will sell.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby SC_PATRIOT » Wed May 09, 2018 6:55 am

Never enough!

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby GarageBoy » Wed May 09, 2018 7:04 am

I wish they made more so the hoarders don't eat up the whole stash. Makes the sprints borderline too valuable to use

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby dj moonbat » Wed May 09, 2018 7:32 am

Darth_cholo wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 12:34 am
Aren't exclusives just another form of offering sprints in the first place? It does take away from the rarity of sprints, but the only people who care are people who care about resale price. Like other said, they stop when they don't sell. It's nice being able to get a knife that has specs you like without paying a collector 3rd party prices.
The exclusives focus pretty heavily on the models in Spyderco's portfolio that are perennial favorites. Whereas sometimes Spyderco will sprint an old model, or a connoisseur steel across several models. You don't really see that kind of thing from the dealers.

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby MichaelScott » Wed May 09, 2018 7:46 am

Darth_cholo wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 12:34 am
Aren't exclusives just another form of offering sprints in the first place? It does take away from the rarity of sprints, but the only people who care are people who care about resale price. Like other said, they stop when they don't sell. It's nice being able to get a knife that has specs you like without paying a collector 3rd party prices.
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From reading these posts it appears that those wanting a reduction in exclusives are basically interested in collector value. Others, like myself, are in favor of more variety. Why would it make sense for Spyderco to turn down orders from dealers to make more sprints that may or may not sell well?
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby Pelagic » Wed May 09, 2018 8:17 am

GarageBoy wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 7:04 am
I wish they made more so the hoarders don't eat up the whole stash. Makes the sprints borderline too valuable to use
Very true. Think about all the sprints and exclusives that will literally never get used to cut anything, lol.
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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby RickC27 » Wed May 09, 2018 8:38 am

Pelagic wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:17 am
GarageBoy wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 7:04 am
I wish they made more so the hoarders don't eat up the whole stash. Makes the sprints borderline too valuable to use
Very true. Think about all the sprints and exclusives that will literally never get used to cut anything, lol.
Funny how that works. They design some incredible steel that could cut through concrete, but people won't touch it without a glove on or even slice a piece of paper or cardboard with it...and spend $200+ on it!

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Re: Too Many Exclusives?

Postby anycal » Wed May 09, 2018 9:15 am

RickC27 wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:38 am
Pelagic wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 8:17 am
GarageBoy wrote:
Wed May 09, 2018 7:04 am
I wish they made more so the hoarders don't eat up the whole stash. Makes the sprints borderline too valuable to use
Very true. Think about all the sprints and exclusives that will literally never get used to cut anything, lol.
Funny how that works. They design some incredible steel that could cut through concrete, but people won't touch it without a glove on or even slice a piece of paper or cardboard with it...and spend $200+ on it!



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