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Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Bodog » Sat May 05, 2018 8:28 pm

The poll i posted about handle materials for a sprint shaman was overwhemingly for micarta. Myself and a couple others would like to see some denim micarta. Sal has said he likes a brown canvas micarta. Personally I'd like either.

So I'm opening a thread where people can post some micarta handles they like and maybe get a discussion going with some yays and nays and maybe Sal can work some of this into a spyderco folder, which i believe would be a first. A couple of disclaimers. He said it was hard to get micarta on foreign knives that didn't warp and screw the lock up without two liners being present. He said he'd like to see brown canvas micarta.

Well, the shaman seems to not have any of those issues. It's made in the US, has double liners, and would be a superb knife to bring some micarta if the material can be sourced.

So I'd like to contribute two versions of micarta that i think would be stellar. Please share your thoughts and what you'd like to see, within reason. Let's help spyderco get this going.

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Bodog » Sat May 05, 2018 8:38 pm

And also, it seems that the steel choice was overwhelmingly for cruwear. There are people that would object to anything not stainless, but would the choice of a nice micarta handle with cruwear steel be enough to get you on board with a unique sprint shaman? Cruwear is much more stain resistant than 52100 and Super Blue. It's akin to 3V. Please post objections because I'm sure we're all genuinely interested.

Personally, this could be a forum knife if a straight up sprint is out of the question. I'd be totally happy with "Spyderco 2018" on the blade.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby zhyla » Sat May 05, 2018 9:20 pm

FYI, Spyderco has made micarta folders in the past. I only have a Caly Jr in micarta but I think there are a couple others. I think there was a Persian model too?

Boker made a few knives with green linen micarta that I thought looked nice. I had one of them and I thought worked very well (it had liners though).

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Bodog » Sat May 05, 2018 10:03 pm

zhyla wrote:
Sat May 05, 2018 9:20 pm
FYI, Spyderco has made micarta folders in the past. I only have a Caly Jr in micarta but I think there are a couple others. I think there was a Persian model too?

Boker made a few knives with green linen micarta that I thought looked nice. I had one of them and I thought worked very well (it had liners though).
Thanks.

So you're suggesting green micarta, any pics?
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Evil D » Sun May 06, 2018 10:21 am

I'd be surprised if micarta happens at all given the shrinkage issues Sal mentioned. I'm not crazy about the light denim color so I think out of these two I'd go for the brown. I'll settle for plain old G10 in any decent color if it means getting a better steel in this knife.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby bh49 » Sun May 06, 2018 10:35 am

If canvas micarta will be the option, I agree with Sal about brown micarta. Handle on Temperance2 look and feel great.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby timlara » Sun May 06, 2018 12:14 pm

Evil D wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:21 am
I'd be surprised if micarta happens at all given the shrinkage issues Sal mentioned. I'm not crazy about the light denim color so I think out of these two I'd go for the brown. I'll settle for plain old G10 in any decent color if it means getting a better steel in this knife.
I agree, to me the most important enhancement for the Shaman would be a super tough steel option. I think the standard G-10 handles are actually very nice and the model is more about comfort and hard use capability.

For a fancy handle, I'd prefer CF like on the fluted Native, but in reality that would price it way outside what I'm willing to spend. I'd even be happy with contoured FRN if it meant I could get better steel at the same or even lower price as the current model.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Evil D » Sun May 06, 2018 12:16 pm

timlara wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 12:14 pm
Evil D wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:21 am
I'd be surprised if micarta happens at all given the shrinkage issues Sal mentioned. I'm not crazy about the light denim color so I think out of these two I'd go for the brown. I'll settle for plain old G10 in any decent color if it means getting a better steel in this knife.
I agree, to me the most important enhancement for the Shaman would be a super tough steel option. I think the standard G-10 handles are actually very nice and the model is more about comfort and hard use capability.

For a fancy handle, I'd prefer CF like on the fluted Native, but in reality that would price it way outside what I'm willing to spend. I'd even be happy with contoured FRN if it meant I could get better steel at the same or even lower price as the current model.

I find polished G10 to be just about as nice to look at as CF. It's especially nice when contoured like the Street Beat. I think it would look amazing on the Shaman.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sun May 06, 2018 12:31 pm

The Street Beat is micarta. I do agree that polished G10 looks just as good though. Once polished up they look almost the same.

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Sjucaveman » Sun May 06, 2018 12:33 pm

The orange positron with polished g10 has a great look too I think so I'd be fine with that as well.

Edit, not in orange preferably.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Evil D » Sun May 06, 2018 1:03 pm

bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 12:31 pm
The Street Beat is micarta.

Oh right. Funny though, that kinda supports G10 as an option. The scales on the Vallotton are pretty similar to the Street Beat. The grain is a little different but if it means less shrinkage issues I think it's a win.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby rybu0305 » Sun May 06, 2018 1:05 pm

Evil D wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:21 am
I'd be surprised if micarta happens at all given the shrinkage issues Sal mentioned. I'm not crazy about the light denim color so I think out of these two I'd go for the brown. I'll settle for plain old G10 in any decent color if it means getting a better steel in this knife.
Agreed but what about some micarta on USA models? The shrinkage shouldn’t be as much of an issue in the states right?
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Evil D » Sun May 06, 2018 1:07 pm

rybu0305 wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 1:05 pm
Evil D wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 10:21 am
I'd be surprised if micarta happens at all given the shrinkage issues Sal mentioned. I'm not crazy about the light denim color so I think out of these two I'd go for the brown. I'll settle for plain old G10 in any decent color if it means getting a better steel in this knife.
Agreed but what about some micarta on USA models? The shrinkage shouldn’t be as much of an issue in the states right?


You'd have to ask Sal on that. I guess it really depends on where the micarta is made and if it gets shipped.
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby bh49 » Sun May 06, 2018 1:10 pm

Polished G10 would be nice on Shaman
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Evil D » Sun May 06, 2018 1:12 pm

bh49 wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 1:10 pm
Evil D wrote:
Sun May 06, 2018 12:16 pm
I find polished G10 to be just about as nice to look at as CF. It's especially nice when contoured like the Street Beat.
I believe that street beat has micarta scales.


Yeah I had a brain fart. They're pretty similar thought. I've heard people claim that "old micarta" had some kind of amazing grip even when polished and wet. Any truth to that?
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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Deadboxhero » Sun May 06, 2018 1:25 pm

I want the blue jeans micarta, it makes perfect sense, jeans wear with cruwear!

Natural Micarta is cheaper though and more available.

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Rutger » Sun May 06, 2018 2:00 pm

It all depends on the quality of the material (which resin and fibers) and the way is was produced (high pressure or just low vacuüm). Same thing for carbon fiber products which can be produced cheaply with lots of voids in it. Micarta can be cheaper than G10, but if it will be the same quality i don't know. But Sal mentioned once that the material stability is less of an issue when you got steel liners on both sides. So i think Micarta will be fine on the Shaman. G10 can give more grip when dry and Micarta when wet because the natural fibers soak up some moisture and give it more texture.

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby dogrunner » Sun May 06, 2018 4:55 pm

Cruwear is my first choice, so definitely in for the steel.
Brown micarta is a great choice. As long as it is not a bright color or smurf blue, handle color does not matter to me.

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Mike51772 » Sun May 06, 2018 5:05 pm

I’d like to see a Shaman with CF scales and a M390 blade. Or with Micarta scales and a M390 blade.

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Re: Micarta handles for shaman

Postby Naperville » Sun May 06, 2018 8:58 pm

204P is my steel choice, and if you want it in Cruwear then just buy the S30V. They are almost identical on Creely's steel chart. 204P is worlds better than Cruwear.

Black or Brown G-10 for me please.
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