I can't wait for a Mule or other production knife in this steel
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts.![]()
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Who is Gary Creely? He has Elmax as one of his least tough stainless steels. Alpha Knife Supply says Elmax is of the toughest stainless steels they've tested. I'm confused.Rutger wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:06 pmFrom what i read people seem to prefer the ease of sharpening and the type of edge Cruwear gives. Cause it doesn't seem to be better in the standard toughness, corrosion resistance and edge retention points compared to similar well rounded steels like 3V or M4. I guess the difference is in the little things you can't always measure.
I don't care too much about about corrosion resistance and with the thick blade on the shaman i don't think toughness is a big issue. So i personally would aim for a steel with more edge retention.
I like this steel chart from Gary Creely to compare steels. It's not perfect science and complete, but gives a nice guideline.
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Charts charts chartsRutger wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:06 pmFrom what i read people seem to prefer the ease of sharpening and the type of edge Cruwear gives. Cause it doesn't seem to be better in the standard toughness, corrosion resistance and edge retention points compared to similar well rounded steels like 3V or M4. I guess the difference is in the little things you can't always measure.
I don't care too much about about corrosion resistance and with the thick blade on the shaman i don't think toughness is a big issue. So i personally would aim for a steel with more edge retention.
I like this steel chart from Gary Creely to compare steels. It's not perfect science and complete, but gives a nice guideline.
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How does K390 compare to Cruwear and M4 on all these properties? I haven't had cruwear yet but K390 was awesome to sharpen and took a crazy good edge.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:13 pmCharts charts chartsRutger wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:06 pmFrom what i read people seem to prefer the ease of sharpening and the type of edge Cruwear gives. Cause it doesn't seem to be better in the standard toughness, corrosion resistance and edge retention points compared to similar well rounded steels like 3V or M4. I guess the difference is in the little things you can't always measure.
I don't care too much about about corrosion resistance and with the thick blade on the shaman i don't think toughness is a big issue. So i personally would aim for a steel with more edge retention.
I like this steel chart from Gary Creely to compare steels. It's not perfect science and complete, but gives a nice guideline.
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Nah, cruwear has more edge stability then M4 meaning better performance with polished edges
It also has similar wear resistance to M4, it's tougher than M4, less likely to chip at the edge then M4 even at higher hardness.
4v is tougher but cruwear had more bite at the edge at the same finish and took a better crisper edge. But 4v is tougher at insane hardness just not as aggressive at the edge.
Cruwear is less reactive then 4v and M4 will resist stain and rust better, However like D2 and 3v it's not a stainless steel.
3v doesn't have the strength of cruwear, and will roll when pushed to the limit vs cruwear will just hold it's shape, less rolling but less malleable.
Thanks for the insight!Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:13 pmNah, cruwear has more edge stability then M4 meaning better performance with polished edges
It also has similar wear resistance to M4, it's tougher than M4, less likely to chip at the edge then M4 even at higher hardness.
4v is tougher but cruwear had more bite at the edge at the same finish and took a better crisper edge. But 4v is tougher at insane hardness just not as aggressive at the edge.
Cruwear is less reactive then 4v and M4 will resist stain and rust better, However like D2 and 3v it's not a stainless steel.
3v doesn't have the strength of cruwear, and will roll when pushed to the limit vs cruwear will just hold it's shape, less rolling but less malleable.
Yeah I voted Maxamet because it's the best bargain, especially when I don't have to make itRutger wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:48 pmThanks for the insight!Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:13 pmNah, cruwear has more edge stability then M4 meaning better performance with polished edges
It also has similar wear resistance to M4, it's tougher than M4, less likely to chip at the edge then M4 even at higher hardness.
4v is tougher but cruwear had more bite at the edge at the same finish and took a better crisper edge. But 4v is tougher at insane hardness just not as aggressive at the edge.
Cruwear is less reactive then 4v and M4 will resist stain and rust better, However like D2 and 3v it's not a stainless steel.
3v doesn't have the strength of cruwear, and will roll when pushed to the limit vs cruwear will just hold it's shape, less rolling but less malleable.
Seems nice and since the steel ain't too expensive it could be a good combo with the Shaman. I guess most people are fine with either Cruwear, 3V or M4. I still would prefer K390/10V for the extra edge retention, but if Cruwear would be the first sprint i'd take it too.
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=78494&hilit=K390koenigsegg wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:22 pmHow does K390 compare to Cruwear and M4 on all these properties? I haven't had cruwear yet but K390 was awesome to sharpen and took a crazy good edge.Deadboxhero wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 4:13 pmCharts charts chartsRutger wrote: ↑Thu May 03, 2018 3:06 pmFrom what i read people seem to prefer the ease of sharpening and the type of edge Cruwear gives. Cause it doesn't seem to be better in the standard toughness, corrosion resistance and edge retention points compared to similar well rounded steels like 3V or M4. I guess the difference is in the little things you can't always measure.
I don't care too much about about corrosion resistance and with the thick blade on the shaman i don't think toughness is a big issue. So i personally would aim for a steel with more edge retention.
I like this steel chart from Gary Creely to compare steels. It's not perfect science and complete, but gives a nice guideline.
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Nah, cruwear has more edge stability then M4 meaning better performance with polished edges
It also has similar wear resistance to M4, it's tougher than M4, less likely to chip at the edge then M4 even at higher hardness.
4v is tougher but cruwear had more bite at the edge at the same finish and took a better crisper edge. But 4v is tougher at insane hardness just not as aggressive at the edge.
Cruwear is less reactive then 4v and M4 will resist stain and rust better, However like D2 and 3v it's not a stainless steel.
3v doesn't have the strength of cruwear, and will roll when pushed to the limit vs cruwear will just hold it's shape, less rolling but less malleable.