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Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby old_dog » Sun Apr 29, 2018 10:07 pm

Hello,

I'm looking for a folder that is comfortable and secure in RGEI (reverse grip edge in) other than the P'kal (been there done that). Any knife with the stiff wire pocket clip is a non-starter for me. Also the butt of the knife should be compatible with a thumb cap. Not looking for a fixed blade alternative, already own and carry several. Blade length 3 inches minimum. Price range up to $350, less is better. Pointed, inline tip, no hawkbills of clip points. Any decent locking mechanism OK; no titanium liner locks, steel is fine, titatium wears out too fast. Current prodection or discontinued doesn't matter. I think that about covers what I'm looking for.

I'm not tied into a brand but there are hundreds of Spydercos out there many of which I've never seen. Although this is a Spyderco forum, if you know of some other make that fits the bill, let me know.

Thanks for any help.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby mattman » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:24 pm

I'm not a SD guy, but I *believe* this is exactly what the Yojimbo2 is designed around? I think Mike Janich (the designer) has a couple YouTube vids demonstrating it...

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby Sjucaveman » Mon Apr 30, 2018 7:42 pm

My yojimbo 2 feels great reverse grip
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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby zhyla » Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:18 pm

What is a “thumb cap”?

Speaking broadly... most Spyderco knives are heavily optimized for edge out use. Most also have round butts which I suspect are sketchy for reverse grip (I’m guessing that’s what you mean by thumb cap).

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby sal » Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:53 pm

Hi Old_Dog,

Welcome to our forum.

I designed the Lil' Temperance 3 with that concept in mind. No thumb cap, but not necessary as you will note when you hold it.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/detail ... ade-3/1032

I'm planning an FRN version, but it's still a year out.

sal

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby old_dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 10:14 pm

zhyla wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 8:18 pm
What is a “thumb cap”?
You wrap your thumb on the butt of the knife to prevent your hand from sliding onto the blade if you hit a hard object.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby old_dog » Mon Apr 30, 2018 11:03 pm

sal wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:53 pm
Hi Old_Dog,

Welcome to our forum.

I designed the Lil' Temperance 3 with that concept in mind. No thumb cap, but not necessary as you will note when you hold it.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/detail ... ade-3/1032

I'm planning an FRN version, but it's still a year out.

sal
Interesting little knife. Never saw one before. My first reaction was negative but after watching a few videos I became more interested. Like the blade, clip, overall size, the lock and the divot. Looks like a Dremel would make it thumb cap compatible if it turns out to be needed. That would spoil the aesthetics. Can'y really tell until I hold one in my hand.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby sal » Tue May 01, 2018 5:38 am

Hi Old_Dawg,

I designed the P'Kal with a thumb cap despite objection because I felt the design needed that feature. The new Lil' Temperance 3 has enough guard in front and "hook" in back to capture the hand securely. A long time and a lot of thought went into the design for MBC use (Martial Blade Craft).

I lean towards RGEI and I designed the knife to meet my desires.

sal

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby Michael Janich » Tue May 01, 2018 7:09 am

Hey, Old_Dawg:

Most Spyderco folder designs are ergonomically biased toward edge-out, utilitarian cutting. Although the P'Kal is obviously the most obvious answer to your specific needs, the Pattada has a more "neutral" handle shape that works pretty well with RGEI and the EuroEdge and Shabaria Sprint are truly symmetrical. You might consider giving them a look as well.

Stay safe,

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby elena86 » Tue May 01, 2018 11:21 am

sal wrote:
Mon Apr 30, 2018 9:53 pm
Hi Old_Dog,

Welcome to our forum.

I designed the Lil' Temperance 3 with that concept in mind. No thumb cap, but not necessary as you will note when you hold it.

https://www.spyderco.com/catalog/detail ... ade-3/1032

I'm planning an FRN version, but it's still a year out.

sal

I am so looking forward to this one. Is it going to have the exact same blade shape ? I have the old school one and I like the pointier blade so much more
Marius

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue May 01, 2018 11:55 am

Welcome to the forum Old_Dog. I own the P'kal, Yojimbo, and a few others. Out of all the knives in my collection the 2 (besides the P'kal) that work best for RGEI with thumb cap are the Paramilitary 2 and the emerson cqc 7 (the mini 7 fits my hand perfect as well but I have small hands). The emersons are off your list most likely because of the titanium liner locks (I agree they wear out way too fast), but the Para2 works pretty good despite not being designed for it. It's got a compression lock and you can use the thumb hole to flick it open easily in forward or revese grip. And I find it easy to transition quickly from one grip to another. And it make a great utility knife :) You might also check out the Endura, and if you are willing to give up the thumb cap, the Delica works well in all grip styles.

May I ask what you didn't like about the P'kal?

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby old_dog » Tue May 01, 2018 3:06 pm

Thanks for the pics of the PM2 grips. This and the lil' Temperance 3 are now on my short list. Emerson also makes a framelock version of the CQC7, I think it's called the HD7.

It might sound trivial but the only problem I had with the P'kal was the stiff wire pocket clip and believe me, I tried.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby sal » Tue May 01, 2018 3:11 pm

Hi Old_dog,

I bent the clip of my p'Kal out a bit to be more accessible. But I usually bent all of my clips out. I like them to "hang" in the pocket rather than be "clipped" to the pocket. Not as secure, but I've not lost one.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby koenigsegg » Tue May 01, 2018 3:37 pm

Please release a PM2 with wireclip
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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby ugaarguy » Tue May 01, 2018 3:58 pm

old_dog wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 3:06 pm
Thanks for the pics of the PM2 grips. This and the lil' Temperance 3 are now on my short list. Emerson also makes a framelock version of the CQC7, I think it's called the HD7.

It might sound trivial but the only problem I had with the P'kal was the stiff wire pocket clip and believe me, I tried.
Hi Old Dog,

A company called RGT makes a solid milled titanium replacement for the Spyderco wire clip - https://rippsgaragetech.com/products/sp ... 5039409182. I'm thinking of getting one myself to put on my Spydiechef for aesthetics.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby old_dog » Tue May 01, 2018 6:02 pm

ugaarguy wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 3:58 pm
A company called RGT makes a solid milled titanium replacement for the Spyderco wire clip - https://rippsgaragetech.com/products/sp ... 5039409182. I'm thinking of getting one myself to put on my Spydiechef for aesthetics.
Thanks, I wish I knew about these three years ago when I sold my P'kal or 3 months ago when I sold my second one.

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby sal » Tue May 01, 2018 9:05 pm

"We get too soon old and too late Smart"

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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby Bodog » Tue May 01, 2018 9:25 pm

sal wrote:
Tue May 01, 2018 9:05 pm
"We get too soon old and too late Smart"

sal
That's something that cannot be fully realized until it's too late to do anything about it. I'd like to say it's the truth but it's not my time yet. I'm still young(ish) and stupid(ish).
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Re: Looking for reverse grip edge in folder

Postby old_dog » Tue May 01, 2018 10:25 pm

Nice welcome, you guys are implying that I am old AND still stupid. :D
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