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Re: Salt Series

Postby The Meat man » Sun May 24, 2020 7:41 pm

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the tusk uses a spring and ceramic ball, so it must be a possibility. make the manix 2 lw salt with screws though please. and translucent yellow sounds hideous to me, but i guess we all have opinions and that’s what rit is for.
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that the Manix's FRCP doesn't take RIT dye the way FRN does.

I think it was on the Sharp Talk podcast ?
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Re: Salt Series

Postby T_MAC686 » Sun May 24, 2020 9:51 pm

Pacific Salt 1
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Re: Salt Series

Postby Ez556 » Mon May 25, 2020 7:54 am

ladybug93 wrote:
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Wartstein wrote:
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Manix 2 LW Salt with translucent yellow scales!!! Obviously in LC200N, maybe give it a SE option along with the PE.

Great idea, especially the SE-part... ;)
This has been discussed here on a number of occasions. Keeping the CBBL rust proof on a Manix Salt could be a challenge. Namely the spring?

I’m certainly not against the idea. I like the CBBL and it would be right up there with the back lock as one of my top choices for a Salt knife. I have actually considered designing another Salt folder around the CBBL, I’m just not sure what the production challenges would be. I like the self close bias of that locking system and I think it is the next safest design for IWB carry (behind the backlock).
the tusk uses a spring and ceramic ball, so it must be a possibility. make the manix 2 lw salt with screws though please. and translucent yellow sounds hideous to me, but i guess we all have opinions and that’s what rit is for.
I was going to chime in with the Tusk as exhibit A as well, but you beat me to it! Not sure what they used on that one for the spring, but it must be possible. Also, I wasn’t keen on translucent yellow until someone posted a rendering of one on this forum, and I was sold. I’ll see if I can find the picture and share it here.
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Re: Salt Series

Postby Ez556 » Mon May 25, 2020 8:07 am

abbazaba wrote:
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Really hoping for translucent FRCP when it finally happens.

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But in reality, there is nothing quite like a gun. And it has been said, "The only way to stop a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun".
Sumdumguy wrote:
Tue Oct 08, 2019 4:35 am
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Re: Salt Series

Postby 5-by-5 » Mon May 25, 2020 9:06 am

Ez556 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 8:07 am
abbazaba wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:31 am
Really hoping for translucent FRCP when it finally happens.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby ladybug93 » Mon May 25, 2020 9:34 am

Ez556 wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 8:07 am
abbazaba wrote:
Mon Sep 30, 2019 9:31 am
Really hoping for translucent FRCP when it finally happens.

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i remember the picture. to be fair, i’m not crazy about the translucent scales in the first place and i really don’t like them in yellow. it doesn’t really matter what one person likes or dislikes though. i would take a manix salt any way i could get it.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby kennethsime » Mon May 25, 2020 9:39 am

The Meat man wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 7:41 pm
ladybug93 wrote:
Sun May 24, 2020 6:57 pm

the tusk uses a spring and ceramic ball, so it must be a possibility. make the manix 2 lw salt with screws though please. and translucent yellow sounds hideous to me, but i guess we all have opinions and that’s what rit is for.
I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere that the Manix's FRCP doesn't take RIT dye the way FRN does.

I think it was on the Sharp Talk podcast ?
I can confirm this. I tired to dye my Maxamet Manix 2 LW, left it in for an hour with zero results. Someone one Bladeforums said the synthetic kit dye works better, but I haven't bought any to try yet.
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Re: Salt Series

Postby James Y » Mon May 25, 2020 10:33 am

I imagine a Salt version of the Manix having a back lock instead of a CBBL, for greater ease of maintenance.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby JuPaul » Mon May 25, 2020 10:56 am

James Y wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:33 am
I imagine a Salt version of the Manix having a back lock instead of a CBBL, for greater ease of maintenance.

Jim
I had the same thought, although I'd hope it could be slimmer all around in a lw backlock than in the g10 version.
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Re: Salt Series

Postby z4vdBt » Tue May 26, 2020 12:12 am

Jumping ahead a few generations: Yojimbo lightweight back lock Salt.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby ladybug93 » Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 am

z4vdBt wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:12 am
Jumping ahead a few generations: Yojimbo lightweight back lock Salt.
i’m not sure i’d want a yojimbo i can’t flick open. if love a yojimbo salt in its current form though.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby Wartstein » Tue May 26, 2020 3:44 am

ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 am
z4vdBt wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:12 am
Jumping ahead a few generations: Yojimbo lightweight back lock Salt.
i’m not sure i’d want a yojimbo i can’t flick open. if love a yojimbo salt in its current form though.

Why should a Yojimbo lightweight backlock Salt not be flickable totally fine?! :confused:
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Re: Salt Series

Postby abbazaba » Tue May 26, 2020 7:06 am

JuPaul wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:56 am
James Y wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:33 am
I imagine a Salt version of the Manix having a back lock instead of a CBBL, for greater ease of maintenance.

Jim
I had the same thought, although I'd hope it could be slimmer all around in a lw backlock than in the g10 version.
Agreed! Manix2 Backlock skinny! (PM2 as well please)

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Re: Salt Series

Postby Wartstein » Tue May 26, 2020 7:49 am

abbazaba wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 7:06 am
JuPaul wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:56 am
James Y wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:33 am
I imagine a Salt version of the Manix having a back lock instead of a CBBL, for greater ease of maintenance.

Jim
I had the same thought, although I'd hope it could be slimmer all around in a lw backlock than in the g10 version.
Agreed! Manix2 Backlock skinny! (PM2 as well please)
Oh yes, Manix 2 LW backlock skinny (perhaps with an edge a few mm longer) would be great. Would not have to be "full salt" for me, but would not hurt either..
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Re: Salt Series

Postby steelcity16 » Tue May 26, 2020 8:01 am

GITD FFG LC200N Salts of the Chap LW, Dragonfly, Jester, Delica (prefer the liner and pointy tip), Endura (prefer the liner and pointy tip), SE Spyderhawk.
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Re: Salt Series

Postby JuPaul » Tue May 26, 2020 9:12 am

abbazaba wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 7:06 am
JuPaul wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:56 am
James Y wrote:
Mon May 25, 2020 10:33 am
I imagine a Salt version of the Manix having a back lock instead of a CBBL, for greater ease of maintenance.

Jim
I had the same thought, although I'd hope it could be slimmer all around in a lw backlock than in the g10 version.
Agreed! Manix2 Backlock skinny! (PM2 as well please)
Sounds great! I'd buy one. I love the cbbl on the g10 manix, but it doesn't work as well for me on the lw. I might still buy a lw cbbl salt just to have a manix salt, but I'd buy a skinny lw backlock salt for sure.
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Re: Salt Series

Postby ladybug93 » Tue May 26, 2020 10:49 am

Wartstein wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:44 am
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 am
z4vdBt wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:12 am
Jumping ahead a few generations: Yojimbo lightweight back lock Salt.
i’m not sure i’d want a yojimbo i can’t flick open. if love a yojimbo salt in its current form though.

Why should a Yojimbo lightweight backlock Salt not be flickable totally fine?! :confused:
i seriously doubt we’d be able to flick this knife open. have you ever tried to flick a native salt open? the backlock spring is way too tight to flick it.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby Wartstein » Tue May 26, 2020 11:01 am

ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:49 am
Wartstein wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:44 am
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 am
z4vdBt wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:12 am
i’m not sure i’d want a yojimbo i can’t flick open. if love a yojimbo salt in its current form though.

Why should a Yojimbo lightweight backlock Salt not be flickable totally fine?! :confused:
i seriously doubt we’d be able to flick this knife open. have you ever tried to flick a native salt open? the backlock spring is way too tight to flick it.

Not a Native SALT, but a Native 5 LW. No problem at all (though I can't remember if only with the thumb or each finger)

The Chap LW is the only backlock I can just flick with the thumb, all others I currently have (Enduras, Endela, Stretches, Delica) with each finger (pinky in reverse grip of course).
I figure a backlock knife with a comparably heavy blade (like the Manix (edit: meant Yojimbo)) should be rather easy to flick open too - ?
Top three going by pocket-time: Endura 4 in VG 10/Micarta-scales; Stretch 1 in VG 10; Endura 4 in HAP 40

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Re: Salt Series

Postby ladybug93 » Tue May 26, 2020 11:17 am

Wartstein wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:01 am
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:49 am
Wartstein wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:44 am
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 12:47 am


i’m not sure i’d want a yojimbo i can’t flick open. if love a yojimbo salt in its current form though.

Why should a Yojimbo lightweight backlock Salt not be flickable totally fine?! :confused:
i seriously doubt we’d be able to flick this knife open. have you ever tried to flick a native salt open? the backlock spring is way too tight to flick it.

Not a Native SALT, but a Native 5 LW. No problem at all (though I can't remember if only with the thumb or each finger)

The Chap LW is the only backlock I can just flick with the thumb, all others I currently have (Enduras, Endela, Stretches, Delica) with each finger (pinky in reverse grip of course).
I figure a backlock knife with a comparably heavy blade (like the Manix (edit: meant Yojimbo)) should be rather easy to flick open too - ?
a few things... those other models are from other factories. i can flick my df2 salt, but my pac salt takes some wrist action to get open. my native? not even close. many of the knives you listed are also lined, which makes them open easier in my experience. the thickest of them all is the native, which is known to have the sturdiest backlock, possibly because of the amount of material in the lock and spring. an even thicker blade equates to an even thicker backlock and spring, meaning more tension on the blade.
for all of you guys that are terrified of comp locks jumping open in your pockets and murdering you, it sounds like a dream come true. :D i’d personally rather have a self defense knife that opens easily and reliably.

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Re: Salt Series

Postby Wartstein » Tue May 26, 2020 11:27 am

ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:17 am
Wartstein wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 11:01 am
ladybug93 wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 10:49 am
Wartstein wrote:
Tue May 26, 2020 3:44 am



Why should a Yojimbo lightweight backlock Salt not be flickable totally fine?! :confused:
i seriously doubt we’d be able to flick this knife open. have you ever tried to flick a native salt open? the backlock spring is way too tight to flick it.

Not a Native SALT, but a Native 5 LW. No problem at all (though I can't remember if only with the thumb or each finger)

The Chap LW is the only backlock I can just flick with the thumb, all others I currently have (Enduras, Endela, Stretches, Delica) with each finger (pinky in reverse grip of course).
I figure a backlock knife with a comparably heavy blade (like the Manix (edit: meant Yojimbo)) should be rather easy to flick open too - ?
a few things... those other models are from other factories. i can flick my df2 salt, but my pac salt takes some wrist action to get open. my native? not even close. many of the knives you listed are also lined, which makes them open easier in my experience. the thickest of them all is the native, which is known to have the sturdiest backlock, possibly because of the amount of material in the lock and spring. an even thicker blade equates to an even thicker backlock and spring, meaning more tension on the blade.
for all of you guys that are terrified of comp locks jumping open in your pockets and murdering you, it sounds like a dream come true. :D i’d personally rather have a self defense knife that opens easily and reliably.
Actually I forgot to mention my Pac Salt ;): Also easy to flick open with each finger!

And as said in my post: Native 5 LW is the same (easy to flick with each finger) and it comes from the same factory and is other than the steel identical to the Native Salt (as far as I know, please correct me if I am wrong!)

But I admit; That might be the case partly because I am so used to backlocks!

For the record: While I am one of those who prefers the Spyderco backlock over all other lock types, I do like the comp lock, just find backlock, CBBL and even liner lock (slightly) better. But the reason in my case is NOT that I fear a comp. lock could come open in my pocket! I really don´t, it never happened to me (just with a BM axxis lock twice) and for me is more a theoretical disadvantage that does not count for me personally in "real life"...
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