Taking apart knives - part 2

[sal]

Hi Michael,

We have found that "perfect" is often a moving target for different people.

sal

[Michal O]

His Sal, I'm spoiled with ball bearings now, before I had [ and still have] mostly Spyderco and Benchmade on washers and was ok with very little side play. Working in cnc industry where are 0,005 mm tolerances doesn't help either. That Shaman had some bigger play for my taste, but now is perfect like on bearings. Anyway I wish there were more knives on washers. Also I have some plans to make washers for one or two knives I have with bearings. Just to make them simplier and easier for mainetance.

[SpyderForLyfe]

Sal, I greatly appreciate your whole "right to repair" attitude. It's one of the many things I love about your company, and am proud to be a "SpyderForLife". Over the past six months I have spent nearly $2k on your knives, half of which I have modified.

My attitude about that is simple: If I break something, is my own **** fault, and it's on me, not you. I'm glad you respect that, and I'm glad you aren't trying to police your knives. Or more appropriately, MY knives. Once I pay for them, they're mine. I refuse to do business with a company that thinks otherwise.

I strongly feel like you should make official tools for knife servicing. I bought a lanyard tube removal tool from sharp dressed knives, so I could ensure a proper removal of the tube from my PM/Para/Manix knives without breaking scales. If you made one, I'd buy it.

Please keep up the great work! Thank you!

[JoshLikesSekiCityKnives]

I much prefer to not take knives apart. And let the knife factory or a professional handle that.

[WyoJon]

Ive noticed its a trend on youtube for disassembly videos. Dont want to point fingers , but a person whos even on here whos name rymes with ick bazz will post a review video always followed up by a disassembly video. He does due dilligence of saying it voids warranty. But, while I take it as him showing the interesting designs, I think many take it as instruction to disassemble.

I love the frn spydercos. I have one that gets hesvy use at work. I spray it out with brake clean and compressed air, and then oil it. Nothing needs disassembling on a spyderco.

He was recently complaining about the use of red loctite on manix and showing how to get around that. Not sure if that was a method of preventing disassembky, or out of necesseity as screws are harder to get and cheaper screws that come loose can be used with loctite.

[WyoJon]

Just wanted to say, please stop using rivets lol, I've had to toss 2 Manix 2 LW's now because the action was so junked up that soaking wouldn't get the stuff out of it.

Not buyin that one bit. Especially not with spyderco warranty.

[jwbnyc]

Spyderco is not using Red Loctite anymore, as far as I know and disassembly of the knife no longer voids the warranty, again, as far as I know.

Having said that, I am not a fan of taking knives apart.

For many, it’s something they want to be able to do easily.

For me the riveted Manix 2 LW was the perfect construction. You could move the clip and adjust the pivot, otherwise it was foolproof.

[hereiamu1]

From Spyderco.com "Warranty & Support"

" Spyderco’s knives are assembled to exacting tolerances by trained technicians, so we discourage end users from disassembling or adjusting our knives. If a knife has been disassembled and reassembled correctly—so as to maintain its proper mechanical function—this warranty remains in full effect. However, if a knife has been disassembled and reassembled in such a way that, in Spyderco’s sole determination, the proper mechanical function of the knife has been compromised, it is no longer covered by warranty."

[WyoJon]

I had forgotten a benchmade method. Benchmade says if a knife action is full of grit, mix a bowl of warm water with dish soap, and open and close the knife submerged in that water until the grit works out of the action. It does work well, even for lots of sand. Of course dry and oil after wards.

[tomsch1963]

I recently disassembled my Kapara, at my own risk and responsibility, to swap the scales that have more grip than the stock CF. Very simple job and have always been very cautious about over-tightening. I cleaned, lubed, and reassembled and the action is amazing! I'm really impressed with the overall Spyderco construction that enables everything to line up perfectly.

[sal]

Hi Tomsch,

Welcome to our forum and thanx much for the kinds words. Sounds like you are meticulous in your disassembly and assembly. Nothing quite like passion appreciating passion.

sal

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"Passion is the spice in the spirit that makes excellence possible".

[JSumm]

I recently disassembled my Kapara, at my own risk and responsibility, to swap the scales that have more grip than the stock CF. Very simple job and have always been very cautious about over-tightening. I cleaned, lubed, and reassembled and the action is amazing! I'm really impressed with the overall Spyderco construction that enables everything to line up perfectly.

I did the same with my Kapara. Love it. Very easy to do too! You are correct, it is very well made.

[AirbusFlieger]

Are there torque values listed for the various screws/models?
Thank you,
AF

[GT99]

Have taken apart many knives, mostly benchmade but just a few weeks ago got my first Spyderco (Smock) and the overall build quality really surprised me, I know Spyderco is a quality brand but I didnt know just how good until I got one in my hand, I had plans to buy another benchmade to add to my collection of them but loved the smock so much a week later bought another spyderco (shaman) and well, again, amazed once the knife was in hand and now, I might still eventually get those benchmade I had planned on eventually but I am on the spyderco wagon now. I had planned on after market scales for the smock and might still do it but I am quite surprised how much I actually like the stock scales, same with the shaman, I might do it but it doesnt really need it, might have to wait until I get one with FRN scales. Only thing Ive changed is the clip on the smock with a lynch clip for deep carry. Ive seen people swap out the bearings for Skiff bearings but I really dont think it will that much of an upgrade, stock ones are just fine IMO

[SpiderIsland]

I had forgotten a benchmade method. Benchmade says if a knife action is full of grit, mix a bowl of warm water with dish soap, and open and close the knife submerged in that water until the grit works out of the action. It does work well, even for lots of sand. Of course dry and oil after wards.

Victorinox suggests the same method as well