Choils feel unnecessary

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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby TriggerThumb » Sun Feb 25, 2018 5:41 am

I find it interesting that everyone cites precision" as the reason why choils offer utility. To me it's the opposite. In push cutting it offers a closer grip to the axis, thus more security of the knife pivoting during hard use. And during slashing cuts, gives more distance the the butt of the knife affording some extra insurance from slippage.
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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby ZrowsN1s » Sun Feb 25, 2018 8:23 am

I'm a big fan of the Dragonflys, Native 5's, and Para 3's. I like the choil for blade control, I'm a fan of choking way up on the knife and having my thumb on the spine of the blade for utility work.
...Now for self defense I'm a fan of the Yo2 and Delica, no 50/50 choil on either.
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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby Nate » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:10 am

I like index finger choils a lot, especially on smaller models where that's the "standard" grip for me.

I don't have to have one though. It's only been a couple weeks, but the Baby Horn has hardly left my pocket since I got it.

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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby Doc Dan » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:22 am

I definitely prefer knives without a choil. However, I can live with them. I find that they bind in things when cutting them and are generally in the way. I prefer having a guard closer to the blade, but still having a design that will cause the flat bottom of the tang to hit my fingers if the lock should fail. Tall order.
I do like choils on smaller knives like the Dragonfly and Chaparral, but only because it allows a fuller grip.
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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby MichaelScott » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:18 pm

I think some designs require a choil in order to be as good as they are, like the Dragonfly and the Efficient. Not so sure about others like the Native or the PM2. In most instances I suspect it is really a matter of personal preference..
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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby Evil D » Sun Feb 25, 2018 6:25 pm

I like them when they seem to be designed as the primary grip option, not so much as a second grip option. I couldn't see using a Dragonfly or Kiwi 4 behind the choil and they feel great when using them, but I do think the Manix 2 would be a better knife with a grip contour more like the D'Allara 2 or Lil Temp, especially if it results in just a bit more edge in the process. I've really come to value having as much edge in a given handle size as possible.

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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby curlyhairedboy » Sun Feb 25, 2018 9:51 pm

I love choils since they generally let me turn a 3 finger knife into a 4 finger grip.
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Re: Choils feel unnecessary

Postby toxophilus » Sun Feb 25, 2018 10:10 pm

Evil D wrote:I'd argue that the Delica grip could be closer to the edge, but tastes will vary. A design like the Lil Temperance or Polestar is genius. It puts the grip very close to the edge without the need for a choil and without sacrificing edge to one. I wish more models were designed this way.
Yessir, that's how I felt about the Delica after carrying one for quite awhile, then the Mantra came out and I gifted the Delica away; more cutting edge the better on that particular model :spyder:

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