Knives going out of stock in Canada?

[dc50]

Condolences to all Canadians.


That period had a real impact on my enthusiasm for knives. Looking online at all the knives I couldn't have gave me the sh*ts so I stopped looking.

Given the attitude toward knives at the time, I stopped carrying altogether.

Thanks man, you've hit the nail on the head, I haven't even looked at whats new for 2018.

[dawebman]

Does anyone know if the Para 3 is legal within Canada if it is already here? Reason I ask is we have a Centrifugal Force law that I’m not so sure about. The Para 3 with tight detents might not pop open on a flick, but if you release the compression lock it moves freely and would surely flick into a locked posistion. Amazon and Blades Canada both sell it. I also like the PM2, but see similar grey area with this. Any thoughts?

[sal]

Hi Dawebman,

Welcome to our forum.

Regarding Canada and knife laws, it has been a challenge for as long as I've been in the Knife business. Your guess is as good as mine.

sal

[Sumdumguy]

Man, I'm so glad that I didn't take that job offer in Vancouver last year.

[dawebman]

Thanks Sal, you guys make some awesome knives!

I love the FFG clip points. Delica, Military, PM2, and P3.

Starting to think anything other then a back or liner lock is risky for EDC. P3 would be a great though, specifically the high end steel, G10 scales, and the compression lock.

[Jazz]

Get it and enjoy the heck out of it while you can. You also might want to get used to two handers like I am all over again. Lawmakers are card carrying idiots.

[dawebman]

I think part of the problem is those laws were meant for butterfly knives and switch blades, but now they are applying the law to folders that just happen to be flickable. The CBSA seems to be leading the charge. Hopefully this all gets worked out. Restricting knives based on deployment speed is silly. Maybe they can make money of it and sell permits. I’d pay it if I could EDC anything I want.

[Liquid Cobra]

Does anyone know if the Para 3 is legal within Canada if it is already here? Reason I ask is we have a Centrifugal Force law that I’m not so sure about. The Para 3 with tight detents might not pop open on a flick, but if you release the compression lock it moves freely and would surely flick into a locked posistion. Amazon and Blades Canada both sell it. I also like the PM2, but see similar grey area with this. Any thoughts?

It’s legal here in Canada.

[The Mastiff]

It’s legal here in Canada.

Because that will take legislation to change and the time isn't right yet. This sure shows the intent of the socialists though. It's inevitable they find ways to get what they need. So should you.


Joe

[bacmapei]

dawebman, welcome to the forum. As others have answered, the Para 3 is legal to buy and own in Canada. I'm located in PEI and currently own two Para 3s.
Importation via mail is the current hurdle dealing with the CBSA. I've spoken to the RCMP and sent correspondence to the Assoc of Cdn Police Chiefs and they are operating status quo and using existing court decisions to guide their interpretation of what is currently illegal regarding sale, ownership, and carrying. I have read of some importation issues with the PM2, but have no first-hand knowledge. If you buy from Blades Canada or another reputable Canadian retailer you should have no issues regardless of the model you choose. I bought a sub $50 folder from a US retailer and had no issues, but it was a smaller wharncliffe blade, so not "tactical" or "scary" even if it has been picked for examination and review.
Searching this thread and others, please consider signing the ePetition (e-1552) to the House of Commons which is related to the importation issue.

[djinnzfree]

Just asking....
If i already have spyderco folder no-legal... what should i do with those?
In Canada did they became collectable i mean double priced?
So we had the right to carry straight blade... but not folder?
Seams werd....

[dc50]

Just asking....
If i already have spyderco folder no-legal... what should i do with those?
In Canada did they became collectable i mean double priced?
So we had the right to carry straight blade... but not folder?
Seams werd....

At this point they are still legal to carry,its the CBSA that's stopping importation.

[colin.p]

Just asking....
If i already have spyderco folder no-legal... what should i do with those?
In Canada did they became collectable i mean double priced?
So we had the right to carry straight blade... but not folder?
Seams werd....

As bacmapei pointed out, folders are legal (at least the definition of law as to what constitutes a prohibited weapon hasn't changed - "yet") and what you bought in Canada is, for the most part still legal to own and carry. It is only what the CBSA or their puppet masters, the CITT (and of course their puppet masters the current socialist government), define as illegal to import that has somewhat changed, making it potentially more difficult to import totally legal to own knives into the country.

I keep getting spammed by the conservatives about the current government trying to reinstitute the long gun registry. I find that the timing is rather opportunistic and wouldn't be surprised if the current government doesn't push forth their agenda to ultimately remove sharp things and things that go boom.

[mjdragonfly]

time to tell your liberal MP that his/her job is going to be gone come election time if he/she does not stop playing silly bugger/buggeress. Tell him/her you will vote them out of a job if they don't put a stop to this because this is only the beginning.

[wade7575]

If you walked up to almost any Cop in Canada and showed them a flipper knife whether it's a Spyderco or ZT knife they really don't give a crap about whether the knife is a flipper or not what they care about is the guy a moron that's carrying the knife and waving it around in public and acting like look at me everyone my can do trick's.

Also if you really want to get down to the brass tack's of it it does not matter if the knife is a flipper or a folding knife that can not be flipped or a straight blade and also even if the knife's blade is within the legal length to carry as soon as it goes in your pocket that knife is not considered a concealed weapon even if the blade was literally 1mm long,but here's the thing Cops don't and unless you give them any crap they won't even charge you for having it if they did decide to take it away unless you threaten them or keep acting stupid then they are going to teach you a lesson and charge you.

I have to talked to many Cop's on many different forces in my area and they all say the same thing about this problem and it is this,unless you are an undesirable person that they are always having to come around and deal with they are not going to bother you because they know a lot of people carry a knife and it's not to stab someone with it or for protection it's incase you need it like the one Cop I know said to me I bet your Aunt wished you would have given her a knife and she could have cut her seatbelt that time she hit black ice and rolled her Van yes my Aunt was alright she just hung upside down for 10 minutes waiting for someone to help.

It's the peckerheads that whip out their knives like I said before and act like morons and also people who are drug dealers that they know who are up to that kind of stuff and can't bust them for it but the Cop's always stop them and search them don't charge for having a knife but take it and do others to make them feel the screws in hopes they will smarten up or move on to another town.

I have also handed my knives to many Cop's and they played with them and wanted to know where to get one just like it,but also be aware that some Cop may just see your pocket clip and say hand it over because it could be his view that no one needs to carry knife regardless of what kind it is and what you maybe using it for.

Why this all happened was because some who purchased knives from China I think is where they were coming from but I could be wrong had CBSA take this knives and said they were not allowed and part of that problem is maybe they legal but if the CBSA guys and girls are not trained about knives then they may make the wrong choice and going back to the guy that had his knives taken by the CBSA and he challenged them on it in some hearing and lost and I guess then the CBSA figured if we want to make their jobs harder they will just fix are little wagons and that's why were at where were right as far as this goes.

But as far as the whole being allowed to carry any a knife if it's in your pocket and not in plain site then it does not matter it's a concealed weapon,also I should mention even the one Cop I talked to said a guy can carry a long flat blade screw driver in the front of his pant's and can yank it much faster then a guy can with a flipper knife and is using the pocket clip as a weapon and he even said don't the law makers think about that because people will buy something that does not fold and are usually longer and will cut into a person's organ's easier even if they can't buy a flipper they will carry something else if it's meant to be used as a weapon.

Just asking....
If i already have spyderco folder no-legal... what should i do with those?
In Canada did they became collectable i mean double priced?
So we had the right to carry straight blade... but not folder?
Seams werd....

[wade7575]

This hasn't got anything to do with any government party it's all about the CBSA and them being sick and tired of as to what they feel getting crapped on because there are some many kinds of knifes and design's and one maker may do something that may make their knife look like it should not be allowed into Canada when in fact it is and then they have to go and have a hearing about it if people challenge it,it's the same thing with a Cop even if your right and your not getting charge sometimes your better to shut up and no say anything or at least to much and challenge and I'm not it's saying it's right it's just a fact.

I have never once in Canada heard any MP say let's take away their flipper knives but then again why wouldn't the Conservatives or even the NDP say hold on there that's not right we would never take away your flippers and in fact this is making us think why are bali song knives not allowed in Canada because it's going to them vote's,but sorry to say it's not a witch hunt on any parties part to take away are knives it's the CBSA being allowed to play by whatever rules they decide,and if anyone was really smart in government and wanted to still limit switch blades and other knives that are already banned but not flippers why ask each maker to submit a model of every knife to RCMP or whoever and then decide whether it's legal or not and then if it is a flipper and it's being sold to someone in Canada they need to ship it in a factory box that has the model number on it so they can then google that knife or look at a picture in their database to compare it to but that would be to easy and make to much sense.

Just asking....
If i already have spyderco folder no-legal... what should i do with those?
In Canada did they became collectable i mean double priced?
So we had the right to carry straight blade... but not folder?
Seams werd....

As bacmapei pointed out, folders are legal (at least the definition of law as to what constitutes a prohibited weapon hasn't changed - "yet") and what you bought in Canada is, for the most part still legal to own and carry. It is only what the CBSA or their puppet masters, the CITT (and of course their puppet masters the current socialist government), define as illegal to import that has somewhat changed, making it potentially more difficult to import totally legal to own knives into the country.

I keep getting spammed by the conservatives about the current government trying to reinstitute the long gun registry. I find that the timing is rather opportunistic and wouldn't be surprised if the current government doesn't push forth their agenda to ultimately remove sharp things and things that go boom.

[emanuel]

Lol, so let me get this straight. These knives are legal in Canada, but somehow the Border Services took it upon themselves to ban the import? What the ****....

[mjdragonfly]

Lol, so let me get this straight. These knives are legal in Canada, but somehow the Boarder Services took it upon themselves to ban the import? What the ****....

Exactly!!! Funny thing is that Blades Canada is full of Chinese flippers? Games are being played, games that are part of a plan. This is not just one rouge boarder crossing agent or one rouge federal department this runs much deeper than that. They don't just want a little they want it all.

[flasharry]

the Blades Canada Website now shows this:

"Important notice: Due to a recent CBSA decision, we are no longer able to import Spyderco folding knives. As individual items sell out, they will be removed from our web site. You can sign a petition by clicking on the link below:
https://petitions.ourcommons.ca/en/Peti ... ion=e-1552"

[wade7575]

It could be that the Chinese knives that are coming in are not being marked properly,I know for a fact a person I know ordered brass knuckles and by that I mean the real deal from an online company in the states and they mark on package for the item's description paperweight,the thing is customs only opens box's with description's that raise their eyebrows also the they scan some and some just get randomly pulled to be cut open because you just never know what your going to find but for the most part if the box's item's in the description don't raise eyebrows it just slides right on threw without ever being opened.

Also no I'm not implying people should smuggle brass knuckles into the country.

Lol, so let me get this straight. These knives are legal in Canada, but somehow the Boarder Services took it upon themselves to ban the import? What the ****....

Exactly!!! Funny thing is that Blades Canada is full of Chinese flippers? Games are being played, games that are part of a plan. This is not just one rouge boarder crossing agent or one rouge federal department this runs much deeper than that. They don't just want a little they want it all.