How about a Native Hawkbill?

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How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Sonorum » Tue Jan 30, 2018 7:44 am

Since I like the ergonomics of the Native a lot more than the Delica I couldn't help but wonder what a Native Hawkbill would look like. I included the Tasman Salt 2 to show the difference.

What do you think, yay or nay? Would you like one? I want one!

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Ignaz » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:02 am

Yes please! Plain und serrated and also make some wharncliffes while we're at it ;) :)

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Evil D » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:14 am

Prefer a bit more hook like the Salt has, but I would be far more inclined to buy a Native Salt hawkbill than the actual Salt version because the ergonomics are better for me.
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby JD Spydo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:19 am

Evil D wrote:Prefer a bit more hook like the Salt has, but I would be far more inclined to buy a Native Salt hawkbill than the actual Salt version because the ergonomics are better for me.
I'm like EVIL D I also prefer a bit more hook than what is shown>> but I do really like the concept of a Hawkbill model with a beefy handle like the one on the GOLDEN, CO made NATIVE model. There would sure be a lot of hard working guys out there that would embrace the idea of a really beefy and rigid Hawkbill model with a handle that would do well in hard work type jobs.

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Sonorum » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:20 am

Evil D wrote:Prefer a bit more hook like the Salt has, but I would be far more inclined to buy a Native Salt hawkbill than the actual Salt version because the ergonomics are better for me.
I didn't think of that! I see your point. I angled the cutting edge so that it would stay relatively slim in the pocket which is something the Tasman is NOT.
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Sonorum » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:24 am

If you take a little out of the rear backspacer so to say you could probably make the hook down a bit moore
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Evil D » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:28 am

Yeah you sort of go into it knowing a hawkbill is going to be a bit of a pocket hog. That's just how it is unless the handle is shaped to mirror the shape of the blade but then ergos can get weird.
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby JD Spydo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:48 am

Evil D wrote:Yeah you sort of go into it knowing a hawkbill is going to be a bit of a pocket hog. That's just how it is unless the handle is shaped to mirror the shape of the blade but then ergos can get weird.
I think that's definitely true with the SPYDERHAWK model but my Harpy & Merlin models fit my pocket very well. Now if they did a NATIVE HAWKBILL there would undoubtedly be more mass to deal with. But you could get around that with a belt sheath>> I still work with a couple of guys who carry their BUCK 110 models in a belt sheath will few problems>> but overall I mostly carry any of my Hawkbills in my front right pocket or the side tool pocket on my Carhartt Jeans or Carhartt bib overalls whichever I might be working in at the time.

Those side utility pockets that they put on those work clothes are extremely handy for carrying companion folders.
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby ThePeacent » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:49 am

wow that is neat :eek:

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Sonorum » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:06 am

JD Spydo wrote:
Evil D wrote:Yeah you sort of go into it knowing a hawkbill is going to be a bit of a pocket hog. That's just how it is unless the handle is shaped to mirror the shape of the blade but then ergos can get weird.
I think that's definitely true with the SPYDERHAWK model but my Harpy & Merlin models fit my pocket very well. Now if they did a NATIVE HAWKBILL there would undoubtedly be more mass to deal with. But you could get around that with a belt sheath>> I still work with a couple of guys who carry their BUCK 110 models in a belt sheath will few problems>> but overall I mostly carry any of my Hawkbills in my front right pocket or the side tool pocket on my Carhartt Jeans or Carhartt bib overalls whichever I might be working in at the time.

Those side utility pockets that they put on those work clothes are extremely handy for carrying companion folders.
The only thing keeping my sketch from being more aggressively angled and still being slim in the pocket is keeping the exact same mold of frn as the plain edge native. The lanyard tube and the lock mechanism limits movement but the tip could maybe be buried deeper with an adjustment of the backspacer.
My guess is that IF Spyderco ever was to make a different blade shape on the Native thay would keep the same handle to keep costs low.
I'm going to make a new sketch tomorrow!

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue Jan 30, 2018 11:36 am

Like they did with the hawkbill DFly, they'd add a little more curve to the blade, and then just extend the kicker (I think thats the right term) out a little farther. But yes it will have a slightly larger footprint in pocket. That being said I'm totally in for a hawkbill native :D
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby zhyla » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:02 pm

Sorry I like hawkbills and I like Natives but that thing is an abomination :)

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby VashHash » Tue Jan 30, 2018 1:25 pm

JD Spydo wrote:
Evil D wrote:Yeah you sort of go into it knowing a hawkbill is going to be a bit of a pocket hog. That's just how it is unless the handle is shaped to mirror the shape of the blade but then ergos can get weird.
I think that's definitely true with the SPYDERHAWK model but my Harpy & Merlin models fit my pocket very well. Now if they did a NATIVE HAWKBILL there would undoubtedly be more mass to deal with. But you could get around that with a belt sheath>> I still work with a couple of guys who carry their BUCK 110 models in a belt sheath will few problems>> but overall I mostly carry any of my Hawkbills in my front right pocket or the side tool pocket on my Carhartt Jeans or Carhartt bib overalls whichever I might be working in at the time.

Those side utility pockets that they put on those work clothes are extremely handy for carrying companion folders.
I carry my spyderhawk in my back left pocket. I barely notice it and I don't really use that pocket for anything else.

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Sonorum » Tue Jan 30, 2018 2:31 pm

zhyla wrote:Sorry I like hawkbills and I like Natives but that thing is an abomination :)
:D :p
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby JD Spydo » Tue Jan 30, 2018 3:47 pm

VashHash wrote:
JD Spydo wrote:
Evil D wrote:Yeah you sort of go into it knowing a hawkbill is going to be a bit of a pocket hog. That's just how it is unless the handle is shaped to mirror the shape of the blade but then ergos can get weird.
I think that's definitely true with the SPYDERHAWK model but my Harpy & Merlin models fit my pocket very well. Now if they did a NATIVE HAWKBILL there would undoubtedly be more mass to deal with. But you could get around that with a belt sheath>> I still work with a couple of guys who carry their BUCK 110 models in a belt sheath will few problems>> but overall I mostly carry any of my Hawkbills in my front right pocket or the side tool pocket on my Carhartt Jeans or Carhartt bib overalls whichever I might be working in at the time.

Those side utility pockets that they put on those work clothes are extremely handy for carrying companion folders.
I carry my spyderhawk in my back left pocket. I barely notice it and I don't really use that pocket for anything else.
Yeah I agree I've never had my Spyderhawk ( no matter which one) ever pose a problem with pocket carry. Now I do have a belt sheath that I use when I go into thick timber because I don't want to risk losing one of those gems at all. But when I'm wearing Carhartt Bib Overalls I usually carry my companion blades in one of the upper front pockets on my bibs. Never had a problem with it either.

The one Spyderco model I did notice taking up pocket space was my Chinook 3 model. Now that bad boy was really beefy for sure. But I would love a Hawkbill with a bigger/thicker handle and a really thick/stout blade as well.

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby bh49 » Tue Jan 30, 2018 8:03 pm

Please, do not call this Native
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My top choices Natives5, Calys, C83 Persian

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby zhyla » Tue Jan 30, 2018 9:05 pm

bh49 wrote:Please, do not call this Native
Let’s call it a Hative.

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby crazywednesday » Wed Jan 31, 2018 12:35 am

I would be on board instantly.
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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby twinboysdad » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:06 am

A) awesome photoshop job OP
B) would prefer N5 Wharn more but-
C) a N5 handle would be a pull cutting demon

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Re: How about a Native Hawkbill?

Postby Evil D » Wed Jan 31, 2018 7:14 am

zhyla wrote:
bh49 wrote:Please, do not call this Native
Let’s call it a Hative.
I would be shocked if somewhere out there a knife company doesn't already have a model called The Hater. If there isn't then there should be lol.
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