MPL-1 has 3.8% C :)
Moreover, all of the tungsten carbide Sandrin knives definitely contain more carbon.
The diamond blades of the eye surgeons, since they are in diamond are 100% Carbon :)
MPL-1 has 3.8% C :)
Wow, I've heard of that stuff but never actually looked up the composition till now. 9% vanadium and insane amounts of chromium and carbon with virtually nothing else. It's almost like s90v on steroids.
At 53 HRC is 1.5 times more wear resistant than s90v, but only 1/3 tough, and at 67 HRC is 2.2 times more wear resistant of s90v :)
I believe it! It has to be on par with the big dogs (Rex 121, Maxamet, 15v, hap72, s125v)supracor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:46 amAt 53 HRC is 1.5 times more wear resistant than s90v, but only 1/3 tough, and at 67 HRC is 2.2 times more wear resistant of s90v :)
Hi there MasterChiefPink. Yeah I did test it. It’s rockwell is 65.5 HRC Which is around what I expected. It’s really good steel especially for a billet steel and but it’s properties really was no surprise to me how ever I’d give anything to know exactly what it’s elemental makeup is. We all know it’s an ultra high carbon steel but I think there is more to this steel than meets the eye. I think next I’m going to cut a small piece off or a few shavings and have it tested because Rosseli won’t tell us so it’s up to me to find out. I’ll get to the bottom of this even if it costs me a bit of money.
I don't think I can help, but from a non-alloyed UHC you'll find a little bit of Mn, P, S, Si and not much more.Stuman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 amHi there MasterChiefPink. Yeah I did test it. It’s rockwell is 65.5 HRC Which is around what I expected. It’s really good steel especially for a billet steel and but it’s properties really was no surprise to me how ever I’d give anything to know exactly what it’s elemental makeup is. We all know it’s an ultra high carbon steel but I think there is more to this steel than meets the eye. I think next I’m going to cut a small piece off or a few shavings and have it tested because Rosseli won’t tell us so it’s up to me to find out. I’ll get to the bottom of this even if it costs me a bit of money.
Rosseli said that he won’t give us the secret ingredient so to say because it’s his patented proprietary billet steel along with his special heat treat but did give the carbon content. It’s more than 1095 being that 1095 is the named after it’s elemental makeup. I’m also thinking about his heat treating process which can also significantly affect the martensite matrix which also helps those important carbides to develop. He also mainly uses lamented methodology in making his knives. I think this is going to be a very interesting investigation into the steel he makes & uses because I was blowen away when I stumbled across him. But I do think your right about those elements being that there are trace amounts in all steels but the question is how much and what !supracor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:12 amI don't think I can help, but from a non-alloyed UHC you'll find a little bit of Mn, P, S, Si and not much more.Stuman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 amHi there MasterChiefPink. Yeah I did test it. It’s rockwell is 65.5 HRC Which is around what I expected. It’s really good steel especially for a billet steel and but it’s properties really was no surprise to me how ever I’d give anything to know exactly what it’s elemental makeup is. We all know it’s an ultra high carbon steel but I think there is more to this steel than meets the eye. I think next I’m going to cut a small piece off or a few shavings and have it tested because Rosseli won’t tell us so it’s up to me to find out. I’ll get to the bottom of this even if it costs me a bit of money.
it should be a 1095HC basically.
I'm very curious about what you will discover :)Stuman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:05 pmRosseli said that he won’t give us the secret ingredient so to say because it’s his patented proprietary billet steel along with his special heat treat but did give the carbon content. It’s more than 1095 being that 1095 is the named after it’s elemental makeup. I’m also thinking about his heat treating process which can also significantly affect the martensite matrix which also helps those important carbides to develop. He also mainly uses lamented methodology in making his knives. I think this is going to be a very interesting investigation into the steel he makes & uses because I was blowen away when I stumbled across him. But I do think your right about those elements being that there are trace amounts in all steels but the question is how much and what !supracor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:12 amI don't think I can help, but from a non-alloyed UHC you'll find a little bit of Mn, P, S, Si and not much more.Stuman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 amHi there MasterChiefPink. Yeah I did test it. It’s rockwell is 65.5 HRC Which is around what I expected. It’s really good steel especially for a billet steel and but it’s properties really was no surprise to me how ever I’d give anything to know exactly what it’s elemental makeup is. We all know it’s an ultra high carbon steel but I think there is more to this steel than meets the eye. I think next I’m going to cut a small piece off or a few shavings and have it tested because Rosseli won’t tell us so it’s up to me to find out. I’ll get to the bottom of this even if it costs me a bit of money.
it should be a 1095HC basically.
Where is this 680ksi steel?me2 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:45 pmDid some research on these knives and ultra high carbon steels in general. The knives overall get positive reviews and the UHC steels can do some pretty interesting stuff: superplasticity (ductility over 600%), extremely high compressive strength (680,000 psi) with respectable ductility (25%), extremely fine grain size (less than 1 micron), and very small carbide size (as low as 0.3 microns). They are a general class of plain carbon and low alloy steels with carbon ranging from about 1% to 2.1% carbon and carbide volume from 15 % to 30%+.
I will let you all know.supracor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:18 pmI'm very curious about what you will discover :)Stuman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:05 pmRosseli said that he won’t give us the secret ingredient so to say because it’s his patented proprietary billet steel along with his special heat treat but did give the carbon content. It’s more than 1095 being that 1095 is the named after it’s elemental makeup. I’m also thinking about his heat treating process which can also significantly affect the martensite matrix which also helps those important carbides to develop. He also mainly uses lamented methodology in making his knives. I think this is going to be a very interesting investigation into the steel he makes & uses because I was blowen away when I stumbled across him. But I do think your right about those elements being that there are trace amounts in all steels but the question is how much and what !supracor wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 9:12 amI don't think I can help, but from a non-alloyed UHC you'll find a little bit of Mn, P, S, Si and not much more.Stuman wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 8:57 am
Hi there MasterChiefPink. Yeah I did test it. It’s rockwell is 65.5 HRC Which is around what I expected. It’s really good steel especially for a billet steel and but it’s properties really was no surprise to me how ever I’d give anything to know exactly what it’s elemental makeup is. We all know it’s an ultra high carbon steel but I think there is more to this steel than meets the eye. I think next I’m going to cut a small piece off or a few shavings and have it tested because Rosseli won’t tell us so it’s up to me to find out. I’ll get to the bottom of this even if it costs me a bit of money.
it should be a 1095HC basically.
I have several Rosellis and I would like to know what they are made of :)
There agree some links to older threads in the beginning of this thread. I also think I have the article saved on my laptop. I can email it if you have it in your signature or can PM it to me.MasterChiefPink wrote: ↑Mon Jul 09, 2018 5:28 pmWhere is this 680ksi steel?me2 wrote: ↑Thu Feb 01, 2018 9:45 pmDid some research on these knives and ultra high carbon steels in general. The knives overall get positive reviews and the UHC steels can do some pretty interesting stuff: superplasticity (ductility over 600%), extremely high compressive strength (680,000 psi) with respectable ductility (25%), extremely fine grain size (less than 1 micron), and very small carbide size (as low as 0.3 microns). They are a general class of plain carbon and low alloy steels with carbon ranging from about 1% to 2.1% carbon and carbide volume from 15 % to 30%+.