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Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:26 am

Hi, new to forum but have been browsing a while.

Wanting to buy another Spyderco as close as possible to my existing 30+ year old Endura.
I especially like the handle material and balance of the knife.

I've found on eBay in Australia a New Spderco Endura 4 black lightweight serrated blade knife C10SBK

How close are the two knives.

Any other option ? Thanks


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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby phaust » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:29 am

Perhaps take the Pacific Salt and sharpen the spine near the tip to be pointier lile the Endura

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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby Evil D » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:32 am

Pacific Salt or maybe a Police but they don't come in FRN handles. I think a Pacific with a reground spine is your best bet.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby tonijedi » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:33 am

From the actual production knives the Pacific Salt must be the most similar.

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Postby The Deacon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:50 am

Aside from your old one having the molded on clip, the two handles are very similar in shape and thickness. The tip of new Endura's blade is rounded off a bit, a sad example of idiot proofing, but the steel will hold an edge longer and the overall shape is very similar to your old one. New one will weigh a bit more, since it has liners. I'd say that, short of finding a "new old stock" original Endura on eBay, the saber ground version of the Endura 4 is as close to yours as you're going to get.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby bearfacedkiller » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:57 am

Pacific Salt. It is hollow ground, doesn't have the molded clip and has a rounded tip. You can easily grind the spine down and give it a pointy tip like your Endura.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:13 pm

Thanks for the suggestions.

I will look at the knives recommended.

Re the tip, I'm not too worried about it being slightly different, more important is similar shape, feel/handle, balance and serrated !
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Postby 500Nitro » Wed Jan 17, 2018 1:16 pm

The Deacon wrote:I'd say that, short of finding a "new old stock" original Endura on eBay,
Ive been keeping an eye out for years and one came up on ebay Aus and I missed it! Am kicking myself.
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Postby The Deacon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:00 pm

500Nitro wrote:Thanks for the suggestions.

I will look at the knives recommended.

Re the tip, I'm not too worried about it being slightly different, more important is similar shape, feel/handle, balance and serrated !
You'll have to decide which characteristic contributes most to "feel", shape or balance. The saber ground version of the Endura 4 will be closest when it comes to shape, but will be a bit more "handle heavy" due to the liners. The Pacific Salt will be closest in regard to balance, but a lot of folks who liked the original Endura did not like the more squared off handle of the Endura 3 and that's the handle currently being used for the Pacific Salt. Both are about the same thickness.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:13 pm

The Deacon wrote: The saber ground version of the Endura 4
Not sure I understand the term saber ground ? Can you expand on it?


The rest of the info you posted was great, thank you.
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Postby The Deacon » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:26 pm

500Nitro wrote:
The Deacon wrote: The saber ground version of the Endura 4
Not sure I understand the term saber ground ? Can you expand on it?


The rest of the info you posted was great, thank you.
Your Endura's blade is saber ground, some Endura 4's, like the one pictured in your first post are also saber ground, but some are now full flat ground. See this page: https://www.spyderco.com/edge-u-cation/ ... de-grinds/ for a better explanation.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby 500Nitro » Wed Jan 17, 2018 2:38 pm

Thanks, hadn't heard that term before but its a good one and I like how it maintains the thickness of the blade.

I have a few Hollow ground knives (in flat blades), nice to look at but wear differently out in the field!
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Postby Doc Dan » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:27 pm

I much prefer the new iteration of the Endura: The Endura 4. You can get it in saber grind if you must, but I prefer the full flat grind because it cuts better. The Endura is one of my 'keeper' knives, meaning I will never part with it.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby sal » Wed Jan 17, 2018 10:40 pm

Hi Ntro,

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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby The Deacon » Thu Jan 18, 2018 6:27 am

Doc Dan wrote:I much prefer the new iteration of the Endura: The Endura 4. You can get it in saber grind if you must, but I prefer the full flat grind because it cuts better. The Endura is one of my 'keeper' knives, meaning I will never part with it.
I prefer FFG too but, based on the photos the OP posted, I assumed his Endura is serrated. Is the FFG Endura 4 available serrated? For some reason I was under the impression it only came in plain edge.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby 500Nitro » Thu Jan 18, 2018 7:46 am

My original knife is fully serrated, as is the new Endura 4 I have been looking at buying.

Serrated is a personal choice.

FFG ???
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Postby Doc Dan » Thu Jan 18, 2018 9:31 am

I overlooked the serrated part. The Endura 4 does come with serrations and a saber grind. I find the new handle more comfortable than the old one.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby ThePeacent » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:34 am

500Nitro wrote:My original knife is fully serrated, as is the new Endura 4 I have been looking at buying.

Serrated is a personal choice.

FFG ???

FFG equals to Full Flat Grind, as opposed to Saber or other types of grinds.
I also prefer SE (Serrated Edge) on my Spydercos,

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and I also think your best pick would be a black handled, satin blade Pacific Salt SE to be the closest to your old Endura, but with even better edge retention and some nice upgrades!

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if you grind the tip, as many here have, you'd get a point just like the one in your old Endura

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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby 500Nitro » Thu Jan 18, 2018 10:57 am

Thank you. Those pics are awesome.

Re serrated, I originally got it on the recommendation of one of my climbing / roping instructors
on the basis that a serrated blade will always cut a rope and when you are dangling over a cliff
or building it's the last place you want to find out your flat blade isn't as sharp as it should be!

The tip doesn't worry me that much but I do agree, the old tip shape looks great.
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Re: Wanting knife as similar as possible to old Endura

Postby Hopsbreath » Thu Jan 18, 2018 12:03 pm

The already recommended Pacific Salt or Endura 4 are both excellent options for you. You near the ocean like most Australians? The big difference between the knives is the Pacific is virtually maintenance free due to the corrosion resistant H1 steel blade. It’s also a little lighter due to the lack of steel liners inside the handle and comes available with a yellow handle option should you decide to make the switch from black. I’ve managed to put some surface rust on an Endura I took to Hawaii for a week of camping. Didn’t do much out of the ordinary with it aside from being exposed to the beach air.

A VG10 blade Endura in plain edge would likely perform better side by side compared to a plain edge Pacific, but since you prefer serrated you’ll experience little difference between the two knives. Looks like the Pacific is around $5 USD more than the Endura but in my opinion you’ll forget about that $5 in no time. Pacific Salt gets my vote as a tough, no fuss user you can use hard and put to bed wet.


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