Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby Stuman » Tue Jan 16, 2018 2:42 pm

Bill1170 wrote:
Stuman wrote:
bearfacedkiller wrote:Found it.

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There is a bit more going on on that page than just SM-100 but still I’m in agreement and can see the cons out weigh pros when it comes to bladed objects in SM-100 but it’s perfect for handles or scales, I mean titanium on its own is a soft alloy compared to steel and I think SM-100 would make a cool piece that is not just a collectors knife and is a working knife in terms of scales or handles material.
For the money SM-100 commands, I can picture dozens of handle materials I’d rather have. Titanium may be soft compared to hardened steel, but it is already much harder than a handle material needs to be to do its job. Why would harder be “better”? Making a handle from super expensive hard metal seems like an answer to a question almost nobody is asking. Perhaps Stuman should commission some custom scales of SM-100 for his favorite knife and claim bragging rights to a knife unique in all the world.
Hi Bill1170,
As I have mentioned above there is one or two other custom knife makers making knives out of SM-100 so even if I managed to get hold of some SM-100 it wouldn’t be unique and I’m not the type of person who like a lot of attention and wouldn’t brag about it either but I’m just thinking out loud. Spyderco is one of the best companies to push the limits of materials that can be used in and with the fabrication of knives so throwing ideas around and thinking out loud can spark new ideas and even leed to breakthroughs. I’m only trying to add to our community and if it’s a bad idea then at least some one has learned something from it, with out spending a penny. Sharing ideas and making mistakes is how we learn and what makes us human.
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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby AGMartinez » Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:12 pm

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This came up some time ago and if I remember correctly Cliff Stamp chimed in claiming that while SM-100 can achieve hardness similar to blade steels that it was a quite brittle in comparison.
Then there needs to be an SM-111. Is it possible for metallurgists, blade freaks, and one absolutely random guerrilla to come up with a KISS sequel specifically for edged performance? Like how adding a scoche of Niobium did for S35VN.

The extreme corrosion-resistance and plasticity of that material could make a thousand-year mule.

My vote is to add an eyeballs glance of Tungsten, because its a record-breaking element, its immortal. But thats probably a bad idea. At any rate, it nerds to be done.
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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby sal » Mon Jun 11, 2018 7:29 pm

Hi AGMartinez,

Welcome to our forum.

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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby Stuman » Tue Jun 12, 2018 4:42 am

AGMartinez wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:12 pm
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:23 pm
This came up some time ago and if I remember correctly Cliff Stamp chimed in claiming that while SM-100 can achieve hardness similar to blade steels that it was a quite brittle in comparison.
Then there needs to be an SM-111. Is it possible for metallurgists, blade freaks, and one absolutely random guerrilla to come up with a KISS sequel specifically for edged performance? Like how adding a scoche of Niobium did for S35VN.

The extreme corrosion-resistance and plasticity of that material could make a thousand-year mule.

My vote is to add an eyeballs glance of Tungsten, because its a record-breaking element, its immortal. But thats probably a bad idea. At any rate, it nerds to be done.
I completely agree. We have H1 Steel Which is basically stainless completely and rustless but has good edge holding ability so why not a SM-100 knife and it has a high attainable hardness. There are really well known custom knife makers using it now and from the testing I’ve seen about this alloy the results are nothing short of stunning. They are the nay sayers because they haven’t used it or look at the data wrongly. It has 1000 and 1 uses for knife making material but the big cutlery companies aren’t going there because it’s expensive and difficult to work with but if any company can knock out SM-100 knives with an amicable price it’s Spyderco. I’d place a wager with anyone that if Spyderco made a Sprint Run of SM-100 knives they would be a scramble to buy them even if they went into full production.
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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby sal » Tue Jun 12, 2018 7:54 am

Last time I checked, it was very expensive. We questioned the size of the market due to the cost. Who has a knife made from it and how much did you pay for it?

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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby dj moonbat » Tue Jun 12, 2018 8:05 am

AGMartinez wrote:
Mon Jun 11, 2018 6:12 pm
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:23 pm
This came up some time ago and if I remember correctly Cliff Stamp chimed in claiming that while SM-100 can achieve hardness similar to blade steels that it was a quite brittle in comparison.
Then there needs to be an SM-111. Is it possible for metallurgists, blade freaks, and one absolutely random guerrilla to come up with a KISS sequel specifically for edged performance? Like how adding a scoche of Niobium did for S35VN.

The extreme corrosion-resistance and plasticity of that material could make a thousand-year mule.

My vote is to add an eyeballs glance of Tungsten, because its a record-breaking element, its immortal. But thats probably a bad idea. At any rate, it nerds to be done.
Maybe throw in some gold, for ductility and general awesome.

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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby sal » Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:33 am

We'll try to get a piece and make a knife with it.

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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby Stuman » Tue Jun 12, 2018 10:05 am

sal wrote:
Tue Jun 12, 2018 9:33 am
We'll try to get a piece and make a knife with it.

sal
Hi Sal,

Please could you let us know how you get on with it ?. I have a custom SM-100 folding knife which cost £450.00 which is around $605.00 but I’d take $100.00 off for shipping to the U.K. but there are custom knife makers making them far cheaper now. I’m pritty sure Spyderco could beat them !
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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby sal » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:26 pm

Hi Stuman,

I believe that Spyderco could beat them on price, but we couldn't beat them on the "custom" factor, or the personalized communication. We really appreciate the custom makers of the world.

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Re: Sal SM-100 mule knife ?

Postby Stuman » Tue Jun 12, 2018 12:59 pm

Hi Sal,

Thank you for the reply. The only reason I’d go to a custom knife maker is because Spyderco did not produce a knife in that steel or as you mentioned to get a customised knife but you can customise a Spyderco knife to a degree with various clips and so on but my first choice every time all of the time would be knives made by Spyderco as I have come accustomed to their reliability, good looks and fantastic super steels and collaborations with custom knife makers so in my world you tick all of the right boxes and this is why I’m very confident that my favourite manufacturer can make a production run in very special steels and alloys such as SM-100 and bring them into the market on a sprint run basis. Specialist steels and innovation is what Spyderco is known for as well as the for mentioned above.
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