I believe just the opposite. :)bearfacedkiller wrote:... regardless of what they say, size does matter.
Seriously though, I do believe in the idea that a large knife can do what a small knife can but a small knife cannot do what a large knife can. The Military is big without being too big and is a versatile size, especially with the choil. It is lightweight, extremely ergonomic, has a subtle but effective negative blade angle, has just enough belly without having too much, has a nice acute tip and is extremely easy to use with gloves on.
I now have seven different versions of the Military and carry it more than any other folder.
The Military is greater than all other folders because...
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Is this a joke? Almost all Spyderco’s are designed for one handed operation. Do you need us to show you how to use these things?Midnightrider wrote:I can not only open it with one hand but also close it with one hand.
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Ok, I don't like the idea of flicking anything but a Zippo. I didn't think about trying that. Obviously it works but not for me.Wrathhog wrote:I don't understand why you can't close any of those knives easily one handed. I close my UKPK one handed and don't use my pants lol. For back locks, just put your index finger under the choil/ricasso area and using your thumb depress the lock and flick it out of the locked position. Your index finger will stop the knife from closing, even on knives without a choil.https://youtu.be/Usp0RX3LUYAMidnightrider wrote:I use my Pacific Salt every day and it takes two hands to close it safely. I close my ukpk on my pants, don't try this at home boys and girls. I was disappointed my new P4 was not a one hander. I guess you guys are just more talented than me or don't mind losing a finger here and there :D
Not my video, just first one that came up on youtube.
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Re: The Military is greater than all other folders because...
Perhapszhyla wrote:Is this a joke? Almost all Spyderco’s are designed for one handed operation. Do you need us to show you how to use these things?Midnightrider wrote:I can not only open it with one hand but also close it with one hand.
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Re: The Military is greater than all other folders because...
closing a backlock (flickless method)Midnightrider wrote: Ok, I don't like the idea of flicking anything but a Zippo. I didn't think about trying that. Obviously it works but not for me.
note: slowed for demonstration purposes but i can do it 5x faster
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Two fast one handed lockback losing methods:Wrathhog wrote:I don't own a Spyderco that I can't open or close with one hand.
https://streamable.com/8yxc5
https://streamable.com/irn21
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Better but still seems like a good way to slice and dice the fingers. What I like about the Military is I can unlock it and when the blade falls from gravity, the choil hits my thumb safely and then I can close it. Just perfectly designed :Dnpad69 wrote:closing a backlock (flickless method)Midnightrider wrote: Ok, I don't like the idea of flicking anything but a Zippo. I didn't think about trying that. Obviously it works but not for me.
note: slowed for demonstration purposes but i can do it 5x faster
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I concede it can be done, it just does not look safe to me. I'll try some of these ideas with my Pacific Salt and P4 and post back from the emergency room later :pVivi wrote:Two fast one handed lockback losing methods:Wrathhog wrote:I don't own a Spyderco that I can't open or close with one hand.
https://streamable.com/8yxc5
https://streamable.com/irn21
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That "middle step" in closing back lock knives, when you have to reposition yor fingers away from the path of the blade is what makes it a bit dangerous IMHO. Back lock has tendency to self closing. Wich is nice, but when the edge, especially epyderedge hit your fingers, that's bad.
Military is excellent knife. I can safely open and close it many ways, one handed.
Military is excellent knife. I can safely open and close it many ways, one handed.
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The best part of a back lock IMO is that they usually have a choil or (less useful) kick that will close onto your index finger instead of the edge. With my Dragonfly I just press the lock and the blade falls onto my index finger and the choil always makes contact with my finger. This could be dangerous if you positioned your index finger way back under the lock, since that might allow the edge to hit your finger instead, but I don't know why you'd do that. I just move my grip back just behind the choil and press the lock, been doing that for so long it's second nature and I've never been cut. I do the same for my Kiwi 4 and Caly 3, and this was one of the details that really stuck out with my original Native which was the first Spyderco I ever bought. It just seemed like a lot of thought was put into it.
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I've been opening and closing a combo edged Delica one-handed for almost 20 years and I can count the number of times that I've cut myself opening or closing it on zero hands.
I'm not sure how crude your fine motor skills are, but I feel confident that most people can safely learn to do it in just a few repetitions. If you're super freaked out about cutting your fingers, you can always depress the backlock and fold the blade closed by pressing the back of the blade against your leg. That way your fingers are never in the blade path.
I mean, the mechanism on the Military does make it close nicely. No argument there. But I can't say that I have had major issues closing other Spideys.
I'm not sure how crude your fine motor skills are, but I feel confident that most people can safely learn to do it in just a few repetitions. If you're super freaked out about cutting your fingers, you can always depress the backlock and fold the blade closed by pressing the back of the blade against your leg. That way your fingers are never in the blade path.
I mean, the mechanism on the Military does make it close nicely. No argument there. But I can't say that I have had major issues closing other Spideys.
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I believe the opposite of your opposite! Darby said it all.jpm2 wrote:I believe just the opposite. :)bearfacedkiller wrote:... regardless of what they say, size does matter.
Seriously though, I do believe in the idea that a large knife can do what a small knife can but a small knife cannot do what a large knife can. The Military is big without being too big and is a versatile size, especially with the choil. It is lightweight, extremely ergonomic, has a subtle but effective negative blade angle, has just enough belly without having too much, has a nice acute tip and is extremely easy to use with gloves on.
I now have seven different versions of the Military and carry it more than any other folder.
And Midnightrider, while the Military may be one of the easiest liner locks to use which is another point to its credit, you can absolutely close any knife one handed. You may not believe in you right now, but I believe in you!
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I think some of the safest locks to close one-handed are the comp and cbbl locks. You can depress the lock bar or pull back on the cage and allow the blade to swing closed with your fingers 100% clear of the path of the blade the whole time! :eek:
That said, the Military is excellent (as are back-locks, and slip-its, etc... :))
That said, the Military is excellent (as are back-locks, and slip-its, etc... :))
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The CBBL really has a lot going for it. It has a strong bias towards closing and it can be closed in one fluid motion without placing the fingers in the path of the blade at any time.
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This is NOT the best way to close a Spyderco back lock. The best way is to close it similar to a liner lock. Put your finger in the hole while pressing on the lock (the guy in the video pressed the lock wrongly, too). Then guide the blade partially closed, shift your fingers out of the way and either snap it closed with your thumb or finger, or put your thumb in the hole and guide it closed. This is very fast.Wrathhog wrote:I don't understand why you can't close any of those knives easily one handed. I close my UKPK one handed and don't use my pants lol. For back locks, just put your index finger under the choil/ricasso area and using your thumb depress the lock and flick it out of the locked position. Your index finger will stop the knife from closing, even on knives without a choil.https://youtu.be/Usp0RX3LUYAMidnightrider wrote:I use my Pacific Salt every day and it takes two hands to close it safely. I close my ukpk on my pants, don't try this at home boys and girls. I was disappointed my new P4 was not a one hander. I guess you guys are just more talented than me or don't mind losing a finger here and there :D
Not my video, just first one that came up on youtube.
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Yep. This is the best way. Or, you could put your thumb in the hole and guide it closed. Easy and safe.Midnightrider wrote:Better but still seems like a good way to slice and dice the fingers. What I like about the Military is I can unlock it and when the blade falls from gravity, the choil hits my thumb safely and then I can close it. Just perfectly designed :Dnpad69 wrote:closing a backlock (flickless method)Midnightrider wrote: Ok, I don't like the idea of flicking anything but a Zippo. I didn't think about trying that. Obviously it works but not for me.
note: slowed for demonstration purposes but i can do it 5x faster
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I don't think there is a best way or a right or wrong way, just what we are most comfortable with. I personally dislike guiding it with my finger in the hole and very much prefer flicking it so the choil or ricasso hits my finger. I know I am not alone. I feel like I have a more secure purchase on the knife while depressing the lockbar that way.
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So you're saying I need to buy the Manix 2 Maxamet? At least this is what I understood from your post :DNate wrote:I think some of the safest locks to close one-handed are the comp and cbbl locks. You can depress the lock bar or pull back on the cage and allow the blade to swing closed with your fingers 100% clear of the path of the blade the whole time! :eek:
That said, the Military is excellent (as are back-locks, and slip-its, etc... :))
<wipes back a tear> thanks, man! this is a great forumPayneTrain wrote:And Midnightrider, while the Military may be one of the easiest liner locks to use which is another point to its credit, you can absolutely close any knife one handed. You may not believe in you right now, but I believe in you!
Yeah I said above this is how I close my ukpk.btbyrd wrote:you can always depress the backlock and fold the blade closed by pressing the back of the blade against your leg
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Yes, Virginia, that's a Purple Haze in my suit pocket :)
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You can't hardly go wrong, but while I'm a big fan of frn, I've always preferred the Manix 2 in g10 with skeletonized liners. Go figure... :confused:Midnightrider wrote: So you're saying I need to buy the Manix 2 Maxamet? At least this is what I understood from your post :D
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Re: The Military is greater than all other folders because...
Then use that same method, only upside down. Blade is then moving upward, so it can't possibly swing closed.Midnightrider wrote:Better but still seems like a good way to slice and dice the fingers. What I like about the Military is I can unlock it and when the blade falls from gravity, the choil hits my thumb safely and then I can close it. Just perfectly designed :D
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