Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
- thewoodpecker
- Member
- Posts: 495
- Joined: Thu Jan 19, 2017 1:58 pm
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
^^^ +1 ^^^
Spyderco Caly 3.5 Super Blue user, Astute enthusiast, and geometry advocate.
- SpeedHoles
- Member
- Posts: 2725
- Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:53 am
- Location: Mitten
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
I'd agree, placement for the screw holes is not ideal.
It's like they just anticipated that lanyard placement would trump clip location for most users. But I don't use a lanyard on this knife.
It's like they just anticipated that lanyard placement would trump clip location for most users. But I don't use a lanyard on this knife.
Going back to Caly.
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Every knife should have a lanyard hole. They could come in very handy at times. This just needs replacement.
- best wishes, Jazz.
- SpeedHoles
- Member
- Posts: 2725
- Joined: Thu Jan 15, 2015 11:53 am
- Location: Mitten
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Jazz wrote:Every knife should have a lanyard hole. They could come in very handy at times. This just needs replacement.
While I can agree with that, I don't personally think that the design placement of the lanyard hole should come first over where the clip will go, making it's location a second thought...
I bet this could have been solved with a clip like on the Native LW, etc, with the hole in the middle but many traditional Paramilitary users probably would have thrown a fit over clip change. :rolleyes:
As you said, it could come in handy at times. Not dozens of times every day like a clip.
Going back to Caly.
- Surfingringo
- Member
- Posts: 5821
- Joined: Sun Sep 01, 2013 2:02 pm
- Location: Costa Rica
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
I’ve carried mine for a couple of months now and the clip placement doesn’t bother me. That said, I would have no objections to a change. I don’t like “deep carry” but I’d like the knife just as much (or more) if the clip placement was more like that of the pm2. Lots of folks are bothered by the clip placement and lots of folks are not. I have not, however. heard anyone who is fine with it the way it is (like myself) object to a cqi change to make it ride lower. Seems like a change would make half the folks happy and wouldn’t really bother the other half.
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Smaller hole would help too. Doesn't need to be a radical change at all.
- best wishes, Jazz.
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
I was thinking this as well.SpeedHoles wrote:I bet this could have been solved with a clip like on the Native LW, etc, with the hole in the middle......
-Matt a.k.a. Lo_Que, loadedquestions135 I ❤ The P'KAL
"The world of edges has a small doorway in, but opens into a cavern that is both wide and deep." -sal
"The world of edges has a small doorway in, but opens into a cavern that is both wide and deep." -sal
"Ghost hunters scope the edge." -sal
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Para3 with wire clip!
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
I'm wondering, could someone please post a picture of a Military and Para 3 side by side clipped in a pocket?
- best wishes, Jazz.
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
At first I did not like Para 3 but after upgrading to Casey Lynch deep pocket clip I'm amazed.... Spyderco Should definately make factory deep pocket clips...
My spyder:'s: Military Camo, Paramilitary 2 CTS-XHP Orange, Paramilitary 2 CTS-204P Green, Endura 4 ZDP-189 ComboEdge BRG, Endura 4 ZDP-189 FFG BRG, Manix 2 Lightweight Blue, Caly 3 G-10, Salt 1 Yellow SE C88SYL, Ulize, Manix I C95, Manix 2 XL S90v CF, Delica 4 CE Black C11PCBBK, Manix 2 154CM, Military All Black C36GPBK, Stretch SE C90SBK Black FRN, Caly3 CF ZDP-189/420J2, Sage 3 BoltLock CF, Gayle Bradley C134CFP, Squarehead C193TIP, Pacific Salt Yellow SE C91SYL, Pacific Salt Black C91PBK, Ladybug 3 Salt LYL3, Stretch CF ZDP-189 C90CF, Lum Large Chinese Folder C143G, Perrin Street Bowie FB04PBB, Mantra Titanium C202TI, Farid K-2 Titanium C185TI, Para 3 C223GPGYCW Para 3 Cruwear
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Yes!Jazz wrote:Perfect.Slumblor wrote:
If only...
- The Deacon
- Member
- Posts: 25717
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
- Location: Upstate SC, USA
- Contact:
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Or, you could set it up for tip down carry. Safer, and given the placement of the holes, there'd be much less exposure that way.
Paul
My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki
Deplorable :p
WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive!
My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki
Deplorable :p
WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive!
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Don't know why people say this. It's not at all safer.The Deacon wrote:Or, you could set it up for tip down carry. Safer, and given the placement of the holes, there'd be much less exposure that way.
- The Deacon
- Member
- Posts: 25717
- Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 10:33 am
- Location: Upstate SC, USA
- Contact:
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Can't speak for "people" in general, but gravity, combined with the piss poor blade retention of Walker, Reeve Integral, and compression locks is why I say it. Tip down can't swing open, tip up can.Wrathhog wrote:Don't know why people say this. It's not at all safer.The Deacon wrote:Or, you could set it up for tip down carry. Safer, and given the placement of the holes, there'd be much less exposure that way.
Paul
My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki
Deplorable :p
WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive!
My Personal Website ---- Beginners Guide to Spyderco Collecting ---- Spydiewiki
Deplorable :p
WTC # 1458 - 1504 - 1508 - Never Forget, Never Forgive!
-
- Member
- Posts: 236
- Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:22 am
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Sal said they don't offer a factory deep carry clip because he knows there are many small businesses that have popped up that make them, and he didn't want to interfere with their entrepreneurship. I say good for you Sal & Spyderco.tap78 wrote:At first I did not like Para 3 but after upgrading to Casey Lynch deep pocket clip I'm amazed.... Spyderco Should definately make factory deep pocket clips...
My collection is ever changing!
-
- Member
- Posts: 236
- Joined: Wed Oct 28, 2015 11:22 am
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
With the detents that are on all of my PM2s and Para 3s, you will NEVER have them open in your pocket if carried tip up.The Deacon wrote:Can't speak for "people" in general, but gravity, combined with the piss poor blade retention of Walker, Reeve Integral, and compression locks is why I say it. Tip down can't swing open, tip up can.Wrathhog wrote:Don't know why people say this. It's not at all safer.The Deacon wrote:Or, you could set it up for tip down carry. Safer, and given the placement of the holes, there'd be much less exposure that way.
My collection is ever changing!
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Gravity alone can't open a knife, unless it has no detent at all, or you're on Jupiter. If a knife can open easily, it will do so tip up or tip down. All it takes is change in inertia and weak detent.The Deacon wrote:Can't speak for "people" in general, but gravity, combined with the piss poor blade retention of Walker, Reeve Integral, and compression locks is why I say it. Tip down can't swing open, tip up can.Wrathhog wrote:Don't know why people say this. It's not at all safer.The Deacon wrote:Or, you could set it up for tip down carry. Safer, and given the placement of the holes, there'd be much less exposure that way.
Of my knives, I have 6 in the locks you mentioned, and none of them have piss poor blade retention. Regardless of lock type, all my knives will open if I flick them hard enough, with or against gravity.
Peter
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
Carrying iwb, tip down is a lot more dangerous than tip up. I carry iwb in running shorts and would never even consider tip down carry. If a knife opens I'm probably cut one way or another but I'd much prefer stitches in my hand vs bleeding out from a main artery in my upper thigh. Carrying tip up in front pocket, the blade is wedged against the side of the pocket making accidental opening almost impossible. I don't see tip down being even remotely safer in any situation.The Deacon wrote:Can't speak for "people" in general, but gravity, combined with the piss poor blade retention of Walker, Reeve Integral, and compression locks is why I say it. Tip down can't swing open, tip up can.Wrathhog wrote:Don't know why people say this. It's not at all safer.The Deacon wrote:Or, you could set it up for tip down carry. Safer, and given the placement of the holes, there'd be much less exposure that way.
- Johnnie1801
- Member
- Posts: 2219
- Joined: Sat Apr 26, 2014 10:29 am
- Location: Europe
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
I already switched the clip on my Para 3 but I'll try to switch it back in the next couple of days and post a pic for youJazz wrote:I'm wondering, could someone please post a picture of a Military and Para 3 side by side clipped in a pocket?
Currently enjoying Spyderco's in - S30V, VG10, Super Blue, Cruwear x4, CTS XHP, S110V x2, M4 x3, S35VN, CTS 204P x2, S90V, HAP 40, K390, RWL34, MAXAMET, ZDP 189, REX 45
Jon
Jon
Re: Para 3 pocket clip needs CQI
That's a lot of trouble. You don't have to, but I appreciate the offer.Johnnie1801 wrote: I already switched the clip on my Para 3 but I'll try to switch it back in the next couple of days and post a pic for you
- best wishes, Jazz.