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RadioactiveSpyder wrote: ↑

Thu Sep 27, 2018 11:02 pm

Maybe MXG can copy his pry bar too.

Xander3Zero wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 8:43 am

I'd like to point out that MXG has like another dozen or so clip designs for various Spyderco models. So its not like they only have that one clip design that looks similar to Lynch's.

Sure MXG's design looks very similar to Lynch's, but there are really only so many ways to "design" a deep carry clip that interfaces with the handle scales. I'm not picking sides, but this is the market we live in; if Lynch wanted to make sure no one mimicked his design, he probably should have sought after a patent before releasing it to the market.

Of these two similar looking designs, I prefer MXG's because it doesn't hang over the edge of the scale and stays within the footprint, but that's just my opinion.

Rutger wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:50 am

The hole in the clip is not patent worthy. It's just a simple solution to a problem that anyone can think off and has probably been used before in other products/industries. The rest of the clip design is way different.
I'd love to see more competition on the Spyderco deep carry clip market to get the prices down. It's a lot of money we have to pay for a little piece of metal.

Liquid Cobra wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:48 am

Now down to the products. I just received some clips from Casey Lynch, and while they are awesome there are some things I noticed that could use fixing. Maybe someone with more experience with his products can tell me if this stuff is normal.

Three things I noticed that weren’t so great on my Lynch clips...

1: The anodization does not cover the entire clip. The underside is plain titanium while the top is all blue. Would be nice if the entire clip was blue. The MXG version I have is.

2: The edges of the clip are very rough and unfinished. Not a deal breaker by any means but something worth pointing out. My MXG clips are all smooth. The overall finish on the MXG is better as well.

3: This one I didn’t photograph, but on both of the Lynch clips I received, the mounting portion of the clip was bent in too far. This made getting the screws in very difficult as they didn’t want to catch the threads in the knife because the titanium wasn’t flush to the scale. I eventually got it in but it was a bit of a pain.

Another thing I’m not so keen on is how the Lynch clip sticks out over the butt of the knife. I can’t compare this to MXG as I don’t have one installed on a PM2, so it could be a problem on both, I just don’t know.

So which do I prefer? Well, I guess I would have to say I prefer the MXG clips because of the things I just mentioned but also aesthetically I think they match the overall look of Spyderco better than the Lynch clips do. I guess it’s how round they are. That’s a personal preference of course. The MXG clips are $23 so they are more expensive but a couple extra bucks doesn’t bother me. If anything I think Casey should probably charge a bit more for his as I felt like I was getting the better part of the deal.

If I had to chose one over the other?.. I wouldn’t. I like both. I’m going to stick to MXG on my Para 3’s and Lynch on my Para 2’s. I like the diversity.

Here are some pics:

Liquid Cobra wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:29 am

Rutger wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:50 am

The hole in the clip is not patent worthy. It's just a simple solution to a problem that anyone can think off and has probably been used before in other products/industries. The rest of the clip design is way different.
I'd love to see more competition on the Spyderco deep carry clip market to get the prices down. It's a lot of money we have to pay for a little piece of metal.

Simple solutions that make people say “well I could have thought of that” are often the best ones. That doesn’t make them trivial or not worthy of a patent. It’s funny to me that you feel this way while posting on a Spyderco forum. The Spyderco opening hole is the most simple and elegant solution there is to opening a knife. It’s also one Sal thought to patent. :rolleyes:

Edit: also, do you really think the price on these clips is high? $18 for a custom piece of titanium seems reasonable to me.

Rutger wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 12:17 pm

Liquid Cobra wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 10:29 am

Rutger wrote: ↑

Fri Sep 28, 2018 9:50 am

The hole in the clip is not patent worthy. It's just a simple solution to a problem that anyone can think off and has probably been used before in other products/industries. The rest of the clip design is way different.
I'd love to see more competition on the Spyderco deep carry clip market to get the prices down. It's a lot of money we have to pay for a little piece of metal.

Simple solutions that make people say “well I could have thought of that” are often the best ones. That doesn’t make them trivial or not worthy of a patent. It’s funny to me that you feel this way while posting on a Spyderco forum. The Spyderco opening hole is the most simple and elegant solution there is to opening a knife. It’s also one Sal thought to patent. :rolleyes:

Edit: also, do you really think the price on these clips is high? $18 for a custom piece of titanium seems reasonable to me.

I know about the Spyderco patent and that is a whole different thing. With the clip we need to reach the screw holes and there are only so many ways to do so. Make a hole or taper in the clip. A hole to reach a screw is a common engineering solution.

And yes i think $18 is a lot. These clips are mass produced (stamped) and the material cost ain't that high. Just compare this amount of money to a full knife. I tend to value stuff more as an engineer and not by my disposable income/feeling.
I also noticed the rough edges on his clips and the poor anodization. These look like cheap Chinese products. Casey should be ashamed to ask this much while delivering such low quality. With high profit margins of course he can provide great service, throw in some useless swag and send out replacement clips/screws etc. I did a quick search and you can get the exact same clip from China for $4.99 including shipping... I like to support USA/EU made and everyone is allowed to make some profit, but these differences are getting big considering the quality. The MXG looks to be much better made, but even they are pricey. I think competition is good for the consumer. I think Spyderco could make a better deep carry clip for less money. Benchmade even gives em for free.