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Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:08 pm
by Ti Rod Tactical
Bodog wrote:
palonej wrote:I just had one......very salty!!!
:D
I've been favoring whiskey and peach tea. Much sweeter.
Me,...I've been favoring a few heath drinks lately and have come to really like Kombucha, an old world probiotics fermented tea drink. It gives me a satisfying "fizz" fix much like soda did,....has a very small amount of alcohol from the fermentation process, and is great for you besides! What's not to like?....

Well,..one thing not to like,....in most store the GTS Brand that I like the best ("Original" flavor with much less sugar than some of the fruit ones),...sells for $3.99 for a 16.2 oz bottle! Sometimes on sale for $2.99, but it's still pricey. Some days I drink TWO spread out,....but that adds up quick so I have to watch it as it hurts the pocketbook.

I guess you cocktail drinkers are used to $4 and higher drinks,....so maybe you should try a heathy Kombucha,...nectar of the Gods! :D

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 2:36 pm
by ZrowsN1s
Ti Rod Tactical wrote:I prefer PB washers in a serious use knife, so I'd probably never buy an Advocate. The only ball bearing knife I own is a used ZT-0562CF just to see how good it flipped. Now I'm over the flipping infatuation. ;)

However, If I did own one I'd eliminate the ball bearing cage entirely, fit a brass or bronze bushing tight into the recesses to take up a lot of the headspace of the BB cage,...and use a .015" to .020" hardened steel washer to make up the difference to rest against the ball bearings. Same count of 2 components to get the same overall thickness as the original ball bearing system, but much more durable and user friendly for tinkerers.

....it should flip even better too, without the potential for the really thin washer to distort and dimple. Just saying that's what I would do....
Hi Ti Rod, welcome to the forum. I feel like you do about PB washers, ball bearing washers aren't for me. The advocate is a pretty sweet looking knife though.

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:42 pm
by Bodog
I'll most likely buy a revamped version regardless of it having bearings or not. I yelled and screamed for something to be done and the least i can do to show appreciation to Sal and co. for listening to all of us is to buy one. It is one hell of a nice looking knife with what's arguably my favorite steel.

And welcome Ti Rod. I've tried kombucha. Can't get into it. Been trying to learn to like coconut water.

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:44 pm
by Bodog
Whoops

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 4:45 pm
by TBob
I will definitely buy the revamped version as soon as it's available in the Spyderco store. I've grown fond of flippers and the Advocate is a beauty.

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Mon Sep 04, 2017 8:27 pm
by palonej
I have had the un re vamped version for around 6 months. The knife has been amazing from day one.....truly.
It flips most excellently. Locks up stupid tight. And best of all it slices like a laser.
I haven't adjusted anything and have carried and used it plenty. The knife is a joy and you guys are going to love it.
Joe

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Sep 06, 2017 10:25 am
by Cheddarnut
palonej wrote:I have had the un re vamped version for around 6 months. The knife has been amazing from day one.....truly.
It flips most excellently. Locks up stupid tight. And best of all it slices like a laser.
I haven't adjusted anything and have carried and used it plenty. The knife is a joy and you guys are going to love it.
Joe
Are you using a fidget spinner as a lanyard bead?

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 3:50 pm
by palonej
Cheddarnut wrote:
palonej wrote:I have had the un re vamped version for around 6 months. The knife has been amazing from day one.....truly.
It flips most excellently. Locks up stupid tight. And best of all it slices like a laser.
I haven't adjusted anything and have carried and used it plenty. The knife is a joy and you guys are going to love it.
Joe
Are you using a fidget spinner as a lanyard bead?
Adds a little weight, but it is extremely fast out of pocket!!!
:D
Joe

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Fri Sep 08, 2017 5:52 pm
by Cheddarnut
palonej wrote:
Cheddarnut wrote:
palonej wrote:I have had the un re vamped version for around 6 months. The knife has been amazing from day one.....truly.
It flips most excellently. Locks up stupid tight. And best of all it slices like a laser.
I haven't adjusted anything and have carried and used it plenty. The knife is a joy and you guys are going to love it.
Joe
Are you using a fidget spinner as a lanyard bead?
Adds a little weight, but it is extremely fast out of pocket!!!
:D
Joe
Indeed. Now if one were to combine your knife and your lanyard bead...
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Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Sun Sep 10, 2017 9:27 am
by palonej
Nice!!
That could be interesting......... :D :D

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Sun Oct 01, 2017 8:12 pm
by carrot
sal wrote:As it turns out, in our study of the situation, we decided that there were some issues (thin washers, etc) that would be a more complicated fix. We suspended production on all of our flippers, and we have stopped shipping Advocates until we can sort it out,. Mike has made announcements to that subject. Eric is currently meeting with the maker to discuss possible solutions for now and moving forward.
sal
Not that my other Spyderco flipper has been a problem at all, but I have been thinking of buying a Mantra 2 and I’m wondering if any production changes have made it to the Mantra yet? I can’t wait to own one.

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 9:14 am
by hovan2yourknives
Hello Sal...it’s been about 10 weeks since your last Advocate update. Do we have a better idea of an ETA yet? Any chance it’ll be before the holidays? I’m really looking forward to getting one back in my pocket!

All the best!
Hovan

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 11:40 am
by sal
Hi Hovan,

We're still waiting for shipment.

sal

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2017 12:22 pm
by hovan2yourknives
Thank you very much for replying Sal!!

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 10:25 am
by Senate
Hello Sal

despite the little flaw i love the knife.
could you be more specific as to what changes have been made?
and will the current knives in the wild will be able to receive these changes or it's a new redesign?

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:01 pm
by sal
Hi Senate,

It's a redesign. Blade, washers, bearings, holder all new.

sal

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 12:38 pm
by toomzz
sal wrote:Hi Senate,

It's a redesign. Blade, washers, bearings, holder all new.

sal
Hello Sal, How can they be distinguished from the first version from the outside?

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 1:06 pm
by sal
Hi Toomzz,

We've not yet established that.

sal

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 2:20 pm
by Mako109
sal wrote:Hi Senate,

It's a redesign. Blade, washers, bearings, holder all new.

sal
"...all new." No wonder it's taken this long. Sounds veeeery interesting. Glad I waited.

Re: The Advocate - An Official Statement from Spyderco

Posted: Wed Nov 15, 2017 4:15 pm
by RamZar
Wouldn’t the redesigned Advocates have a manufacture code of say November 2017 (KQ) or later on the box?