Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby bh49 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 4:14 pm

it will be epic
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Postby ZrowsN1s » Fri May 26, 2017 2:29 pm

sal wrote:3D CF.

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I take it from the Mid Year supplemental that this has been changed to 3D matte finished G-10?
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby KingRat » Fri May 26, 2017 3:24 pm

Shaman looks like a winner in the supplemental. I'm sure I'll get one, but I'd rather it was closer to Military size (4") than Paramilitary 2 size (3.5"). What does this mean for the Native Chief though? Maybe a "lets see how the Shaman does first" scenario.

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Postby wrdwrght » Fri May 26, 2017 4:27 pm

The Shaman, at last. Handsome. Now on my radar.
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby Evil D » Fri May 26, 2017 8:44 pm

I am a little let down at the size, I too was hoping for more along the lines of a 3.5-3.75 inch blade but 3 inches of edge puts it squarely in competition with the Manix 2 which is gonna make things interesting for me, especially if we someday get to see the same sprint options as the Manix 2.
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby KingRat » Sat May 27, 2017 10:08 am

Hopefully this means the Native Chief is closer than ever. I have also seen some lil' native discussions here. I'd be much more interested in a 4" model then those smaller knives, but it looks like things are finally coming together with the unveiling of the Shaman. I wonder how many from the original discussion groups many many years ago are still active here!

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Postby wrdwrght » Sat May 27, 2017 11:30 am

With the Shaman's imminence, maybe we can get back to the subject at hand, especially as the Shaman seems smaller than some would like...
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Postby sal » Sat May 27, 2017 12:17 pm

The Native "Chief" has been on hold for some 15 - 20 years. I imagine we can get it to queue if there is demand. I'll watch the thread.

The Shaman is designed to be 3.5" blade length which is legal in more places that the Chief's 4.0" blade. Eric also has a smaller Native in-the-works.

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby Chinook3 » Sat May 27, 2017 12:34 pm

The Chief sounds great! A 4.0" blade with a comp lock would be the bees knees...
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Postby wrdwrght » Sat May 27, 2017 1:08 pm

sal wrote:The Native "Chief" has been on hold for some 15 - 20 years. I imagine we can get it to queue if there is demand. I'll watch the thread.

The Shaman is designed to be 3.5" blade length which is legal in more places that the Chief's 4.0" blade. Eric also has a smaller Native in-the-works.

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As the OP, I thank you for chiming in, Sal.

I really hadn't considered that legality might weigh on production decisions.

Would a flash batch be a way to judge interest without committing too much capital to the Chief's release?

Whatever, I'll let the Police4 scratch my Chief and Military itches for a while. What a year you're giving us!
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby ZrowsN1s » Sat May 27, 2017 3:45 pm

Ahh I was confused, I thought the "chief" had been renamed the "shaman". Now I understand we are talking about different knives.
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby wrdwrght » Sat May 27, 2017 5:48 pm

Yeah, ain't it grand? :)
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby sal » Sat May 27, 2017 6:06 pm

Hi Wrdwrght,

I would rather just tool up for regular production, assuming there's enough demand. While legality is always a question, it doesn't stop us from making larger knives.

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby ZrowsN1s » Sat May 27, 2017 6:07 pm

I'd still be interested in an extra large 3D CF Naive.
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby wrdwrght » Sat May 27, 2017 8:32 pm

sal wrote:Hi Wrdwrght,

I would rather just tool up for regular production, assuming there's enough demand. While legality is always a question, it doesn't stop us from making larger knives.

sal
Sal, to gauge interest, would you consider allowing someone to put together some photos of the current Chief proto, say, Wouter, at the next Amsterdam meeting?

The only image of the Chief I'm aware of (//forum.spyderco.com/viewto ... 79#p490847) is from 2009...

I think people here would be reluctant to say they're in without having a fair idea what they're in for.
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RECENT ARRIVAL: S90V Shaman. ON RADAR: Maxamet PM2; “Crucarta” Shaman; Enuff Salt sheepsfoot; Roadie. IN DREAMS: K390 Military2 stop-lock; 4V Native Chief; Slysz Swayback; Anso Rock Lobster; Nishijin “R”; C27 serrated Jess Horn.

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby Chinook3 » Sat May 27, 2017 8:45 pm

Thank you for posting that pic link of the "Chief", it is awesome and right up my alley!!! Kinda reminds me of the Renegade in an old school Golden way!! :D
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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby KingRat » Mon May 29, 2017 2:55 pm

I'm really hoping this one goes into production at some point. Maybe after the Shaman is released, and folks get a taste for larger Natives, there will be enough demand.

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby KingRat » Sun Aug 13, 2017 2:27 pm

Lords and Ladies,

So, this happened in the Spyderco Shaman News and Gossip Thread:

"Eric and I are considering the Native Chief as well. development is mostly done, should be easy to slide into queue.

sal"

Now I am wondering, what does the Chief look like after all these years? Does it still resemble the prototype from way back in 1999? Is it a large Native 5, or is it a large Shaman? Or is it another animal altogether?

Let the rampant speculation begin.

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby VashHash » Mon Aug 14, 2017 11:00 am

KingRat wrote:Lords and Ladies,

So, this happened in the Spyderco Shaman News and Gossip Thread:

"Eric and I are considering the Native Chief as well. development is mostly done, should be easy to slide into queue.

sal"

Now I am wondering, what does the Chief look like after all these years? Does it still resemble the prototype from way back in 1999? Is it a large Native 5, or is it a large Shaman? Or is it another animal altogether?

Let the rampant speculation begin.
I'm sure they tweaked the design a little bit. Most of the Golden produced models have a bushing now. This wasn't common when the knife was designed. I'm hoping it comes out. I like the idea of the shaman but if the chief is right behind I would rather wait for it.

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Re: Native Chief - Can we get a heartbeat?

Postby embry386 » Tue Aug 15, 2017 12:41 pm

Very interested in the Chief, but I'm uncertain about buying it, because the Native's ergos fit me real well and since the Chief's larger, it might not fit me so well. I'll probably buy one if the ergos are similar enough to the Native and if they make a plainedge DLC-coated FRN version.


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