Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Discuss Spyderco's products and history.
User avatar
ChrisinHove
Member
Posts: 2538
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:12 am
Location: Thoroughly brassed off with 2020

Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby ChrisinHove » Sat Apr 08, 2017 1:29 am


User avatar
carl3989
Member
Posts: 95
Joined: Mon Jan 09, 2017 5:34 pm
Location: upstate ny

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby carl3989 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:43 am

It's sad but quite common to "rip-off" the Spydie hole. Wish they didn't but that's not only company doing it. What really angers me are the Chinese clones of Spydercos which are getting harder to detect.

Spydergirl88
Member
Posts: 7150
Joined: Fri Jul 17, 2015 12:42 pm

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby Spydergirl88 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:46 am

Wow. Flagrant foul. Game ejection.

User avatar
paladin
Member
Posts: 1883
Joined: Sun Feb 27, 2011 5:51 pm
Location: Hotel Carlton-San Francisco

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby paladin » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:32 am

red card :mad:
What is truth? Pontius Pilate

User avatar
NickShabazz
Member
Posts: 253
Joined: Mon Aug 22, 2016 8:48 am
Contact:

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby NickShabazz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 8:45 am

Yep, that's shameless. At least it's shameless and terrible. I wonder if they could somehow make the handle thicker...
Mourning the Slysz Bowie and loving the rest of Spyderco's gems. Check out my reviews at https://www.youtube.com/c/nickshabazz!

User avatar
Evil D
Member
Posts: 22084
Joined: Sat Jun 26, 2010 9:48 pm
Location: Northern KY

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby Evil D » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:00 am

Really sucks when you remember Schrade used to make pretty​ nice knives back in the day.
SHARPEN IT LIKE YOU LOVE IT, USE IT LIKE YOU HATE IT
~David

yablanowitz
Member
Posts: 5225
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:16 pm
Location: Liberal, Kansas

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby yablanowitz » Sat Apr 08, 2017 11:04 am

At least they used oval holes instead of the trademarked round hole. I believe that any other patents have expired by now, leaving this one in the "crass but not actionable" category.

User avatar
JRinFL
Member
Posts: 845
Joined: Wed Nov 18, 2015 10:30 am
Location: Unfashionable West End of the Galaxy

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby JRinFL » Sat Apr 08, 2017 6:12 pm

Evil D wrote:Really sucks when you remember Schrade used to make pretty​ nice knives back in the day.
Schrade is a Chinese company these days, not the Schrade of old.
Used to be JR in CT with a much earlier join date. :rolleyes: :spyder: Native in 440v was my gateway Spyderco! :spyder: Wharnie for the whin! Friends call me Jim. As do my enemies.

zhyla
Member
Posts: 1650
Joined: Tue Apr 20, 2010 2:12 pm

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby zhyla » Sat Apr 08, 2017 7:35 pm

I clicked expecting to see something vaguely resembling a Dyad... but that is a close approximation.

Mora2013
Member
Posts: 44
Joined: Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:44 am
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA, Earth

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby Mora2013 » Sat Apr 08, 2017 9:16 pm

JRinFL wrote:
Evil D wrote:Really sucks when you remember Schrade used to make pretty​ nice knives back in the day.
Schrade is a Chinese company these days, not the Schrade of old.
From what I understand, Schrade went bankrupt and out of business. Taylor Brands LLC came in and bought the name only, and then began importing knives under the Schrade name. So, it's really not the same company at all.

User avatar
sal
Member
Posts: 13660
Joined: Fri Sep 24, 2004 12:00 pm
Location: Golden, Colorado USA

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby sal » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:06 am

I thought that Taylor sold to S&W.

sal

User avatar
bearfacedkiller
Member
Posts: 9832
Joined: Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:22 pm
Location: hiding in the woods...

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby bearfacedkiller » Sun Apr 09, 2017 7:15 am

I grew up carrying Old Timers. It's sad how far they have fallen.....

They have a new knockoff of the Carvin' Jack too. I want it but have sworn off modern Shrades for a few reasons. Now I have one more reason....

Sal, would Spyderco ever consider making a tool like the Carvin' Jack?
-Darby
sal wrote:Knife afi's are pretty far out, steel junky's more so, but "edge junky's" are just nuts. :p
SpyderEdgeForever wrote: Also, do you think a kangaroo would eat a bowl of spagetti with sauce if someone offered it to them?

TheChunk91
Member
Posts: 73
Joined: Fri Aug 02, 2013 5:06 pm
Location: Tornado alley

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby TheChunk91 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 8:14 am

Mora2013 wrote:
JRinFL wrote:
Evil D wrote:Really sucks when you remember Schrade used to make pretty​ nice knives back in the day.
Schrade is a Chinese company these days, not the Schrade of old.
From what I understand, Schrade went bankrupt and out of business. Taylor Brands LLC came in and bought the name only, and then began importing knives under the Schrade name. So, it's really not the same company at all.
That pretty much sums it up. The new owners of schrades name have brought shame to the real schrade of old. The new knives have nothing to do with the schrades made in walden and later ellenville NY.

Some of the finest knives ever made were the schrade cut co era (1904-1946). Their distinctive peachseed jig bone was absolutely stellar.

Mora2013
Member
Posts: 44
Joined: Sun Apr 02, 2017 11:44 am
Location: Los Angeles, CA, USA, Earth

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby Mora2013 » Sun Apr 09, 2017 9:16 am

sal wrote:I thought that Taylor sold to S&W.

sal

Thank you Sal, I stand corrected. I missed the news that Taylor was sold to S&W in 2016.

User avatar
sonarsessions
Member
Posts: 57
Joined: Thu Apr 27, 2017 1:45 pm
Location: Georgia
Contact:

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby sonarsessions » Tue May 09, 2017 2:42 pm

If I recall correctly Schrade/Imperial/Old Timer knives were sold to Taylor Brands, then SWHC (Smith and Wesson Holding Company) purchased Taylor Brands. SWHC then became American Outdoor Brands Corp. They may have a model (or maybe a few) that are US made but most are still Chinese.
"All good, just different." :D

Current Spyderco's: C240CFP Smock CF S30V, C11PBK Saber Grind Delica 4 Black VG10, C101PBN2 Manix 2 Brown CTS XHP, C28PBK2 Dragonfly 2 FRN Black VG10, C223GP Para 3 Black G10 S30V, C28GRE2 Dragonfly 2 British Racing Green ZDP-189, C28ZFPGR2 Dragonfly 2 Zome VG10, C41PBK5 Native 5 FRN Black S35VN, C101PDBL2 Manix 2 Dark Blue S110v, C94PDBL UK PenKnife Lightweight Dark Blue FRN S110V, C41PDBL5 Native 5 Dark Blue S110V, C11FPWCBK Wharncliffe Delica 4 Black VG10, C10PSFG Endura 4 Foliage Green Combo VG10, C11FPBN Flat Ground Delica 4 Brown VG10

User avatar
Joris Mo
Member
Posts: 1073
Joined: Wed Jun 01, 2011 6:51 am
Location: Amsterdam, NL.

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby Joris Mo » Tue May 09, 2017 3:09 pm

bearfacedkiller wrote:I grew up carrying Old Timers. It's sad how far they have fallen.....

They have a new knockoff of the Carvin' Jack too. I want it but have sworn off modern Shrades for a few reasons. Now I have one more reason....

Sal, would Spyderco ever consider making a tool like the Carvin' Jack?
Wow, a Spyderco carving tool! That would be real cool.. :)

OakTree
Member
Posts: 92
Joined: Wed Feb 01, 2017 1:06 pm

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby OakTree » Tue May 09, 2017 4:35 pm

The Spydie-hole is a nice design feature but come on... There are only so many ways that one can open a knife. Opening a knife with the thumb is natural and there are only 2 ways to do it: a depression and/or an extrusion. If you go with a depression, you're not going to make it a square or a triangle. It's either going to be a circle or an oval.

yablanowitz
Member
Posts: 5225
Joined: Sun Apr 09, 2006 2:16 pm
Location: Liberal, Kansas

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby yablanowitz » Tue May 09, 2017 5:56 pm

OakTree wrote:The Spydie-hole is a nice design feature but come on... There are only so many ways that one can open a knife. Opening a knife with the thumb is natural and there are only 2 ways to do it: a depression and/or an extrusion. If you go with a depression, you're not going to make it a square or a triangle. It's either going to be a circle or an oval.
Really? Have you ever heard of the Byrd line?

User avatar
ChrisinHove
Member
Posts: 2538
Joined: Tue Dec 17, 2013 8:12 am
Location: Thoroughly brassed off with 2020

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby ChrisinHove » Wed May 10, 2017 6:08 am

OakTree wrote:The Spydie-hole is a nice design feature but come on... There are only so many ways that one can open a knife. Opening a knife with the thumb is natural and there are only 2 ways to do it: a depression and/or an extrusion. If you go with a depression, you're not going to make it a square or a triangle. It's either going to be a circle or an oval.
You would think so, wouldn't you. But for how long were folding knives in use before someone came up with that idea?

User avatar
tvenuto
Member
Posts: 3790
Joined: Sun Apr 29, 2012 8:16 am
Location: South Baltimore

Re: Dyad rip-off by Schrade

Postby tvenuto » Wed May 10, 2017 6:23 am

Every time this comes up, I feel compelled to mention this case, where Hershey's was denied trademark protection on the shape of their bars on the grounds that it was functional, and thus not eligible for trademark protection.

For the record, I don't like blatant knockoffs of spyderco's designs. However, I also don't think the use of the hole opener in particular is a black and white issue. I hope spyderco keeps chalking it up to: "imitation is the sincerest form of flattery, they can't do it as well as we can, and the people who want quality will seek us out."


Return to “Spyderco General Discussion”

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: aicolainen, Bing [Bot], FullFlatMind, Google [Bot], GrandallK, gull wing, JonesE, Larry_Mott, Spydergirl88 and 42 guests