Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
- Deadboxhero
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Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
The Japanese have lots of unique high performance steels that we simply do not have any access to on folders with Spyderco's Japanese sprint run
I have been using an 240mm Akifusa PM Migaki in the kitchen since christmas, Its a fricken laser. Very thin blade.
It has a laminated piece of SRS-15 stainless powdered steel at the core sandwiched between two pieces of 400 series stainless to hold it all together.
This steel rocks!
its at 63-64 HRC :eek:
the composition is the same as CPM Cruwear but has the chromium increased from ~8% to ~13%
This is Stainless Cruwear guys :cool:
We want this!
I wish we had this from Crucible
Why?!
Cruwear and SRS-15 sharpen like a dream, somewhat similar to super blue, but tougher and more wear resistant. SRS-15 has the added bonus of less maintenance in wet and corrosive environments with the same benefits of cruwear.
I've been using my gyuto and pm2 and could not be happier with the class of steel.
Lets get them SRS-15 delica's boys! Wooo! :D
let our voices be heard! :D
I have been using an 240mm Akifusa PM Migaki in the kitchen since christmas, Its a fricken laser. Very thin blade.
It has a laminated piece of SRS-15 stainless powdered steel at the core sandwiched between two pieces of 400 series stainless to hold it all together.
This steel rocks!
its at 63-64 HRC :eek:
the composition is the same as CPM Cruwear but has the chromium increased from ~8% to ~13%
This is Stainless Cruwear guys :cool:
We want this!
I wish we had this from Crucible
Why?!
Cruwear and SRS-15 sharpen like a dream, somewhat similar to super blue, but tougher and more wear resistant. SRS-15 has the added bonus of less maintenance in wet and corrosive environments with the same benefits of cruwear.
I've been using my gyuto and pm2 and could not be happier with the class of steel.
Lets get them SRS-15 delica's boys! Wooo! :D
let our voices be heard! :D
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
They've done Blue Super and MBS-26, so SRS-15 sounds right up that alley.
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
I've used some MBS-26 on a Masahiro gyoto, it was 'ight, nothin' crazy, reminded me of something in between aus 8 and vg10, Balanced and affordable but not mind blowing, nothing that would tip the scales in favor over other designs unless the price was good but I'd still rather have vg-10.
Super blue is a different story, that stuff is killer, love that edge taking, gets screamin' with minimal effort.
Super blue is a different story, that stuff is killer, love that edge taking, gets screamin' with minimal effort.
Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
Hmmmm, I wonder if Sal and the :spyder:-crew have anything up their sleeves.... Been a bit since this thread: Exotic Japanese steels
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
yeah, mbs is good but vg10 is a tad better on kitchen cutlery. too bad no manufacturer is willing to grind vg10 as thin as the MBSes like what sal saidDeadboxhero wrote:I've used some MBS-26 on a Masahiro gyoto, it was 'ight, nothin' crazy, reminded me of something in between aus 8 and vg10, Balanced and affordable but not mind blowing, nothing that would tip the scales in favor over other designs unless the price was good but I'd still rather have vg-10.
Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
There are certainly Japanese *kitchen knives* that are ground extremely thin in VG-10, they are usually HT to a higher hardness than a folder as well, but that 's because it's assumed those blades won't see the kind of harsh cutting tasks that an EDC folder might.npad69 wrote:yeah, mbs is good but vg10 is a tad better on kitchen cutlery. too bad no manufacturer is willing to grind vg10 as thin as the MBSes like what sal saidDeadboxhero wrote:I've used some MBS-26 on a Masahiro gyoto, it was 'ight, nothin' crazy, reminded me of something in between aus 8 and vg10, Balanced and affordable but not mind blowing, nothing that would tip the scales in favor over other designs unless the price was good but I'd still rather have vg-10.
My two favorite kitchen knives are made of laminated V2, they're a PITA to care for compared to a stainless blade, but the way they take a literal "razor blade" edge and how easy it is to touch up are worth the effort IMO.
If there really is a Japanese CruWear equivalent, I'd be a sucker for a Sprint series in that steel, definitely sign on for another Delica and D'fly, possibly a Manbug or Stretch as well...
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
Sounds good. You can put me down for the usual, a Delica and a Stretch. :)
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
This sounds like a perfect idea for Delica, Endura, and Stretch and other models.
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
You had me at "stainless Cruwear"! Yes, please Sal & Eric.
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
I just don't buy the "stainless Cruwear" story...
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
I had Haruyuki in SRS15 (which is same OEM as Akifusa), good steel. Can't compare it to cruwear, but it takes a good edge and holds it decently. For some reason it does not get that much love compared to HAP40 or R2 (SG2), not too many options.
If Spyderco would make a sprint run in it, I would definitely consider to get it. For example Endura SRS-15 G10
If Spyderco would make a sprint run in it, I would definitely consider to get it. For example Endura SRS-15 G10
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
SRS-15 (PM steel)
C 1.50
Cr 13.00
M 2.75
W 1.25
V 1.50
CTS b75p (PM version of BG42)
C 1.10
Cr 14.50
M 4.00
V 1.20
CPM Cruwear
C 1.10
Cr 7.50
M 1.60
W 1.15
V 2.40
CTS PD1 (PM steel)
C 1.10
Cr 7.75
M 1.60
W 1.10
V 2.35
Vascowear
C 1.12
Cr 7.75
M 1.60
W 1.10
V 2.50
Z wear (PM steel)
C 1.15
Cr 7.50
M 1.60
W 1.00
V 2.40
Spectrumwear
C 1.15
Cr 8.50
M 1.50
W 1.50
V 1.95
Vanadias 4 Extra (PM steel)
C 1.40
Cr 4.70
M 3.50
V 3.75
CPM 4V
C 1.40
Cr 5.00
M 2.95
V 3.85
C 1.50
Cr 13.00
M 2.75
W 1.25
V 1.50
CTS b75p (PM version of BG42)
C 1.10
Cr 14.50
M 4.00
V 1.20
CPM Cruwear
C 1.10
Cr 7.50
M 1.60
W 1.15
V 2.40
CTS PD1 (PM steel)
C 1.10
Cr 7.75
M 1.60
W 1.10
V 2.35
Vascowear
C 1.12
Cr 7.75
M 1.60
W 1.10
V 2.50
Z wear (PM steel)
C 1.15
Cr 7.50
M 1.60
W 1.00
V 2.40
Spectrumwear
C 1.15
Cr 8.50
M 1.50
W 1.50
V 1.95
Vanadias 4 Extra (PM steel)
C 1.40
Cr 4.70
M 3.50
V 3.75
CPM 4V
C 1.40
Cr 5.00
M 2.95
V 3.85
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
I'm all for trying SRS 15 out in a sprint. As far as sprints go I'm all for controlling cost and I'm fine with FRN for sprint runs. If they save me $30 per knife over carbon fiber I prefer it. :)
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
I'm finding this a very interesting thread from the standpoint that VG-10 which of course is Spyderco's main line steel for it's "Japan made" units has been with us for almost 20 years or so. Hey don't get me wrong because I'm not knocking VG-10 in the least bit>> but with all the new supersteels on the horizon I do think it's high time for Spyderco to put some of these other Japanese steels to the test just to see how they perform on Spyderco's products.
They could do Sprint Runs of the Delica, Endura and even the Harpy which all three would be great units to test these newer/better blade steels. Hey if this SRS 15 is the "Cat's Meow" :cool: then let's give it a try on something like the C-17 Catcherman or even one of the kitchen models for that matter.
This idea is way overdue in my humble opinion.
They could do Sprint Runs of the Delica, Endura and even the Harpy which all three would be great units to test these newer/better blade steels. Hey if this SRS 15 is the "Cat's Meow" :cool: then let's give it a try on something like the C-17 Catcherman or even one of the kitchen models for that matter.
This idea is way overdue in my humble opinion.
Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
Here here!
Am I the only one who'd want to see this on a Dragonfly?
Am I the only one who'd want to see this on a Dragonfly?
Stay Golden :spyder:
Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
It must be if it sounds this good but I'm willing to try it out anyway..Deadboxhero wrote:Its a TRAP!
(don't forget the wharncliffe Delica in the sprint run)
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
Deadboxhero wrote:SRS-15 (PM steel)
C 1.50
Cr 13.00
M 2.75
W 1.25
V 1.50
CTS b75p (PM version of BG42)
C 1.10
Cr 14.50
M 4.00
V 1.20
CPM Cruwear
C 1.10
Cr 7.50
M 1.60
W 1.15
V 2.40
CTS PD1 (PM steel)
C 1.10
Cr 7.75
M 1.60
W 1.10
V 2.35
Vascowear
C 1.12
Cr 7.75
M 1.60
W 1.10
V 2.50
Z wear (PM steel)
C 1.15
Cr 7.50
M 1.60
W 1.00
V 2.40
Spectrumwear
C 1.15
Cr 8.50
M 1.50
W 1.50
V 1.95
Vanadias 4 Extra (PM steel)
C 1.40
Cr 4.70
M 3.50
V 3.75
CPM 4V
C 1.40
Cr 5.00
M 2.95
V 3.85
Let's get any of these into some sprints. Golden models and Caly 3, Worker, and G10 Dragonfly please.
CRU-CARTA THE SEKI MODELS! AND BRING US THE DODO-FLY!
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Re: Let's get some SRS-15 steel on some FRN This Year!
I like Cruwear and I like FRN, but I love Golden, CO...cut out the middleman and just make a Cruwear Native 5 LW. Like Donald Trump, I also never tire of winning
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twinboysdad wrote: ↑Tue Jan 30, 2018 4:40 pmI like Cruwear and I like FRN, but I love Golden, CO...cut out the middleman and just make a Cruwear Native 5 LW. Like Donald Trump, I also never tire of winning
This is still my #1 most wished for knife. I think we need a round of Cruwear sprints in both DLC and stonewash for 2019. Native LW, Native G10, Manix LW, Lil Native Comp Lock, Shaman, Para 3 LW, and Military (last Cruwear millie was pre-CQI changes...we need a new CQI version in Cruwear!)!
Oh, and this SRS-15 should be the next Seki sprint steel as well! PLEASE NO CLADDING THOUGH. I would love a Dfly, Dfly Whanie, Strech, Endela, and Jester!
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