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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby Ryno » Fri Apr 28, 2017 3:42 pm

JD Spydo wrote:
Ryno wrote:I wonder if there would be many takers in a carbon steel spyderhawk. Maybe something plain like 1095.
You know that is a novel idea "Ryno" but speaking strictly for my own self and my own personal uses of the Spyderhawk I personally would have virtually no use at all for a carbon steel Spyderhawk. I do some really roughhouse work with mine and the H-1 really serves me well>> albeit I am very anxious to see how the Spyderhawk would do with LC200N in SE & PE both.

To me it's getting to where high end stainless blades now have most of the virtues of the carbon steel blades. They have really come a long way with many of the newer stainless blade steels. But I've got to admit that it is an interesting idea to say the least.
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby VashHash » Mon May 01, 2017 10:48 am

Just remember H1 is the NUMBER 1 edge holder in serrated edges. So i say keep it H1. I'd like to play with other steels but my spyderhawk is my all time beater. H1 can handle a lot of abuse and rolls or bends instead of chipping. I don't hand it out like I used to because it's not easily replaced but when this sprint comes out I'll probably use it as my loaner knife too. I don't have much "scientific" data to back up anything just real world experience using H1 in a "don't really care" manner.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby ZrowsN1s » Mon May 01, 2017 11:38 pm

Ryno wrote:I wonder if there would be many takers in a carbon steel spyderhawk. Maybe something plain like 1095.
I would prefer a high speed tool steel in plain edge.
*actually ZDP-189
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby bh49 » Tue May 02, 2017 5:00 am

ZrowsN1s wrote:
Ryno wrote:I wonder if there would be many takers in a carbon steel spyderhawk. Maybe something plain like 1095.
I would prefer a high speed tool steel in plain edge.
*actually ZDP-189
If I remember correctly Spyderco stopped producing SE ZDP189 blades due to chipping.
My vote certainly goes to H1 unless if there is VG10 option.
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue May 02, 2017 2:05 pm

bh49 wrote:
ZrowsN1s wrote:
Ryno wrote:I wonder if there would be many takers in a carbon steel spyderhawk. Maybe something plain like 1095.
I would prefer a high speed tool steel in plain edge.
*actually ZDP-189
If I remember correctly Spyderco stopped producing SE ZDP189 blades due to chipping.
My vote certainly goes to H1 unless if there is VG10 option.
Yep that's my understanding as well. Although I would prefer a plain edge regardless of the steel. SE just isn't my thing. It would be kind of cool for spyderco to be the first company to make a plain edge ZDP hawkbill.
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby Ryno » Tue May 02, 2017 4:49 pm

ZrowsN1s wrote:
bh49 wrote:
ZrowsN1s wrote:
Ryno wrote:I wonder if there would be many takers in a carbon steel spyderhawk. Maybe something plain like 1095.
I would prefer a high speed tool steel in plain edge.
*actually ZDP-189
If I remember correctly Spyderco stopped producing SE ZDP189 blades due to chipping.
My vote certainly goes to H1 unless if there is VG10 option.
Yep that's my understanding as well. Although I would prefer a plain edge regardless of the steel. SE just isn't my thing. It would be kind of cool for spyderco to be the first company to make a plain edge ZDP hawkbill.
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I think something like 1095 would be neat because it gets really sharp and doesn't take alot of work to get it there. The edge holding is better than H1 I think.
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby thombrogan » Tue May 02, 2017 6:19 pm

I hope everyone gets the steel of their dreams in vehicle of a Spyderco hawkbill. For me, that's H1 in PE and SE nestled in orange FRN.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby SpyderNut » Tue May 02, 2017 6:41 pm

Agreed. H1 would be my preference too (unless LC200N is an option?? ;))
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby ZrowsN1s » Tue May 02, 2017 9:44 pm

I actually agree the Spyderhawk sprint is probably not the best place to debut a PE ZDP hawkbill, but I hope they make one in the future (Drangonfly sized would be awesome!)
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby JD Spydo » Thu May 11, 2017 2:03 pm

ZrowsN1s wrote:
Ryno wrote:I wonder if there would be many takers in a carbon steel spyderhawk. Maybe something plain like 1095.
I would prefer a high speed tool steel in plain edge.
*actually ZDP-189
The big problem with ZDP-189 is it's vulerability to corrosion. It's certainly not able to withstand most food acids and it's somewhat brittle for most uses that the Spyderhawk excels in.

Actually I've wondered how the Spyderhawk would perform with CTS-XHP. But at this time I still would like to see how LC200N would perform in a Hawkbill in SE & PE both more than any other blade steel at this time.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby ZrowsN1s » Thu May 11, 2017 2:08 pm

LC200N would be very acceptable to me. I think we will see it on a lot more knives as more people start to know and love the steel.
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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby ohcyclist » Thu May 11, 2017 10:08 pm

As a knife produced in Japan seems like the most likely steels would be H1 or vg-10. I would be fine with either. However the LC200n idea seems interesting.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby JD Spydo » Wed May 17, 2017 10:41 pm

ZrowsN1s wrote:LC200N would be very acceptable to me. I think we will see it on a lot more knives as more people start to know and love the steel.
Yeah it's really the logical choice because it's high time that we get to see what LC200N could do not only in a Hawkbill but to see how it would work with a serrated edge. But I would also like to see how XHP would be too.

It's just way past time for at least a Sprint Run of the Spyderhawk in PE & SE both

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby BDNX » Thu May 18, 2017 12:14 am

Definitely down for an orange Spyderhawk Salt Sprint!!!!!

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby VashHash » Thu May 18, 2017 5:29 am

With some black rit dye and a little effort it could be the perfect Halloween folder. Muhahahahahaha.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby JD Spydo » Thu May 18, 2017 6:43 am

VashHash wrote:With some black rit dye and a little effort it could be the perfect Halloween folder. Muhahahahahaha.
A neon, nuclear Spyderhawk is a great idea>> because the nuclear colored Spyders are a lot easier to find if you misplace them. As far as Halloween goes that's a few months away. But who else other than Spyderco could do the ideal Halloween folder?

With all the time that has passed since the H-1 Spyderhawk was discontinued I don't think there is any doubt that a Sprint Run wouldn't even last a month on the shelves.

If a guy wanted to do his own dying or any other type of custom enhancements then maybe they ought to make a few of them in just plain white.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby VashHash » Thu May 18, 2017 7:21 am

JD the color doesn't even matter to me. Black rit will fix that if i feel the need. I just hope they last long enough for me to add a few to my reserve.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby JD Spydo » Thu May 18, 2017 7:40 am

VashHash wrote:JD the color doesn't even matter to me. Black rit will fix that if i feel the need. I just hope they last long enough for me to add a few to my reserve.
My point really wasn't so much about radical appearance as much as it is for making it easy to locate if misplaced. That's the biggest reason I like Spyderco's nuclear colored models. Not to mention that if "GOD Forbid" you would drop it overboard while on a boat>> because in reasonably shallow water a nuclear colored Spyder would be much easier to locate.

But radical appearance i.e. nuclear color would be proper for a model such as the Spyderhawk. I was also kind of thinking along the lines of different colors for different blade steels too.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby VashHash » Thu May 18, 2017 8:18 am

If I'm around water i usually tether the knife to myself with about 2-3 foot of paracord. I just want more H1 spyderhawks. I'm tired of people price gouging them.

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Re: H1 Spyderhawks

Postby JD Spydo » Thu May 18, 2017 11:17 am

VashHash wrote:If I'm around water i usually tether the knife to myself with about 2-3 foot of paracord. I just want more H1 spyderhawks. I'm tired of people price gouging them.
Yeah it's way past time for them to consider not only another Sprint Run but to actually consider putting this great Spyderco model back into the main line up. The potential market is probably at it's all time high and it would be a slam dunk for Spyderco. And like I've said before if they would market the Spyderhawk and TASMAN both in these landscaping and Lawn & Garden magazines they would truly have trouble keeping them on the shelves.

The Spyderhawk has probably gained more popularity than I would say any other past model has over the past 4 to 5 years. I can't even tell you how many people have asked me in the past few months where they can find one. Also with LC200N gaining popularity so fast it would be a great model to use that blade steel on.

Yeah you're right I would definitely use a lanyard if I got anywhere near the water with any of my Spyders.


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