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Paramilitary and Military with thicker blade and Saber Grind: Yes or No?

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This is not intended to look down on the current design of the Millie and Para Millie whatsoever, it is just a thought stream about possible changes or options in the lineup:

To all Millie and Para Millie fans and users and collectors: Do you think it would be good for these knives to be made with thicker blades and saber-grinds, say even if the same steel was used, and same G1-0 handles? Or do you think they are perfect as is, and if someone wants a knife of that size and basic shape with saber grind, they should stick to the Endura and Pac salt models?
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I have came to the conclusion that I prefer the FFGs 95% of the time. I'm sure that saber and hollow grinds serve a lot of people for hard use applications, but in those times I think I would prefer to be using a fixed blade. I still have folders that have them though. I like them, but more often than not, I reach for a FFG.

Just my opinion and I'm sure that other people would disagree.
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No thanks to changing it to saber grind or any grind other than FFG. The Manix 2 eventually became FFG and is better in my opinion that way.
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I'd like to see them a little thinner, tbh. Absolutely no to thicker blades and saber grinds.
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FullCircleHook wrote:I have came to the conclusion that I prefer the FFGs 95% of the time. I'm sure that saber and hollow grinds serve a lot of people for hard use applications, but in those times I think I would prefer to be using a fixed blade. I still have folders that have them though. I like them, but more often than not, I reach for a FFG.

Just my opinion and I'm sure that other people would disagree.
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Bodog wrote:I'd like to see them a little thinner, tbh. Absolutely no to thicker blades and saber grinds.
Same here. FFG and distal taper are amongst their best features.
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Older Military models already had thicker blades compared to current ones.
Not a lot, but definitely measurable.
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Bodog wrote:I'd like to see them a little thinner, tbh. Absolutely no to thicker blades and saber grinds.
If the PM2 were thinner than it is today i wouldn't dare stab it in a loaf of bread for fear of the tip breaking :)
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Kind of hard to picture a Military with a saber grind in my head- I'm just so used to the FFG profile.
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NO!
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I would like to see another option in the military lineup. How about a grind that makes for a stronger tip? I wouldn't say no to a Military with a "Janich-like" grind, but still have the same overall blade length.
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I would rather see the FFG ground so that it is even thinner behind the edge. My millies and paras are generally about 0.025 BTE and I think they could go lower... maybe 0.015-0.020.
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Thicker blade and add an extra inch while you're at it.
I actually bought a K-2 when they came out and it took about 30 seconds to realize how much I miss having a scale covering the back of the lockbar.
Somehow that knife was much more difficult to manipulate than most other framelocks as well.

Anyway, I'm all in on a bigger Millitary, but not with a different grind. I'm not wholly opposed to different grinds on other models, but on the Military it would just feel wrong.
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Certain blade shapes and designs lend themselves to working well with a saber grind. The Millie and pm2 are not among that group IMO. Another no from me.
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I absolutely loath saber grind so no thanks.
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Regarding the distal taper to a fine tip: that is a very useful feature of the mili / pm2 design. Improve tip strength with tough steel (cruwear, m4) but the grind is already highly functional! Nochange is warranted. For a more robust tip on a longer blade, get a tatanka :)
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Keep them both flat ground but switch to 3mm stock. The flat grind and distal taper make that thicker blade stock work but I would much rather have thinner knives. This is why I almost always grab a Stretch over a Para2.

Outside of fixed blades i don't have much use for saber grinds.
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They are perfect as is. I have no idea why anyone would want anything other than ffg. And the blade stock on both models is plenty thick for me.
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I like the blades exactly as they are. I do not like saber grinds except on a knife for splitting joints on a hunt.
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No for me, too. It's already been explained why in a number of excellent posts.
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