I believe these are still made at the Taichung, Taiwan plant like the other Chaparrals with the same XHP blade and lock back mechanism. It seems like the only remaining questions are whether there will be liners and what color the FRN will be.nicked.onaut wrote:sal wrote:We've got production in-house. I carried one today. It was one of my "baby's so I've been on it. I know it's a first run piece, and I'm certainly biased, but I think it's a winner.
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I’ve noticed that Sal doesn’t give much away regarding details when discussing new designs. But, I suspect that this new Chaparral will be a bit more than the current one with FRN scales. I mean why would the Chaparral be in need of higher traction scales? If the new one has FRN (which may be better for offering color variations) minus liners then it might be lighter enough to set a new weight record.
I don’t know but it is going to be interesting to see what lands.
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Another reason for a FRN offering is reduced price. The CF/G-10 Chaparral goes for $124.95. I'd assume a FRN offering would go for under $100.
Personally, the Chapparral has four high points. Firstly, it has great slicing performance with a FFG blade of XHP that's only 0.08" thick. Secondly, all the wonderful handle materials. Thirdly, it's legal in many more places due to the under 3" blade length. Finally, it's a light classy folder.
Personally, the Chapparral has four high points. Firstly, it has great slicing performance with a FFG blade of XHP that's only 0.08" thick. Secondly, all the wonderful handle materials. Thirdly, it's legal in many more places due to the under 3" blade length. Finally, it's a light classy folder.
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RamZar wrote:I believe these are still made at the Taichung, Taiwan plant like the other Chaparrals with the same XHP blade and lock back mechanism. It seems like the only remaining questions are whether there will be liners and what color the FRN will be.nicked.onaut wrote:sal wrote:We've got production in-house. I carried one today. It was one of my "baby's so I've been on it. I know it's a first run piece, and I'm certainly biased, but I think it's a winner.
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Unless they make drastic changes internally from what I saw (admittedly not disassembled) at Blade Show, it's essentially the same knife, but with half-ish height liners and black FRN scales. In most ways that matter, it's the same, but it's more different from previous Chaparrals than they were different from each other. I'm also 100% sure they're being made in Taichung.MichaelScott wrote:I’ve noticed that Sal doesn’t give much away regarding details when discussing new designs. But, I suspect that this new Chaparral will be a bit more than the current one with FRN scales. I mean why would the Chaparral be in need of higher traction scales? If the new one has FRN (which may be better for offering color variations) minus liners then it might be lighter enough to set a new weight record.
I don’t know but it is going to be interesting to see what lands.
The reason why the Chaparral is getting FRN scales is not just for higher traction on its own, per se, but to create a more affordable, more utilitarian version. Eric told me that they intend this one to come in at around the price of a base Delica, which means you're getting the same workhorse FRN and lockback, but with higher build quality, better steel, a thinner and slicier blade, a 50/50 choil, all in a smaller and thinner package. That's an incredible value, and a spectacular addition to the Spyderco family. It also, for me, instantly becomes my go-to Spyderco recommendation for most people if they want something smaller or less beefy, replacing the Dragonfly. I still think the DF2 is slightly better, but for some folks it might be a little too small, and the Chaparral is just right.
Now, I could see there being a chance of a different color of FRN, but I don't think they'd do that on the first one, given that one of the goals of the knife is to be more utilitarian. But I could be wrong about that.
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Given that the street price of a Delica is about half that of a CF Chaparral, such a knife should be a run-away seller. I certainly could afford one.
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I will be glad when this was is released. I have waited for a lesser expensive FRN Chaparral for a long time.
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I love my Raffir Noble but I can't wait to get a FRN to carry.
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From what I can tell on the internet videos, the scales are quite beautiful. It appears the surface is very glossy and clear. Is it slick, or does it have some degree of friction?Ncmiked wrote:I love my Raffir Noble but I can't wait to get a FRN to carry.
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Pretty slick. Think bowling ball. Texture of the scales isn't that important thanks to excellent ergos. Looking forward to the FRN version.MichaelScott wrote:From what I can tell on the internet videos, the scales are quite beautiful. It appears the surface is very glossy and clear. Is it slick, or does it have some degree of friction?Ncmiked wrote:I love my Raffir Noble but I can't wait to get a FRN to carry.
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Raffir Noble isn't slippery under normal use. Think about how smooth glass is "slippery", but grips your fingers well when your hands are dry.
On the other hand, wet Raffir Noble is pretty slippery. As thewoodpecker alluded to, the design of the knife allows you to grip it comfortably and safely even when wet, but the loss in grip is noticeable when drawing from your pocket.
On the other hand, wet Raffir Noble is pretty slippery. As thewoodpecker alluded to, the design of the knife allows you to grip it comfortably and safely even when wet, but the loss in grip is noticeable when drawing from your pocket.
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Raffir Noble’s handle can be quite slippery when wet with water, sweat, oil, etc. Additionally, the handle’s surface is very prone to scratches. Beautiful piece with no two handles exactly the same. Perhaps best carried in a pouche.
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The issue I have with the RN version is that unless you're purchasing it in person, it's a crapshoot as to whether or not you'll get scale patterns that appeal to you.
I sold mine because of the undesirable looks that particular scale had.
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Do we have any idea what the pattern will be on the FRN? I love the bi-directional texturing but on a gents folder like this I wouldn't mind something smoother, say something like the Centofante 3 or even the Urban/Pingo/Spy-DK.
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Afiak, this still from the Shot show vid is the only clue:T_MAC686 wrote:Do we have any idea what the pattern will be on the FRN? I love the bi-directional texturing but on a gents folder like this I wouldn't mind something smoother, say something like the Centofante 3 or even the Urban/Pingo/Spy-DK.
No idea if that's what we'll see or just what's on the proto... Agree that the "grid" pattern on the slippies is hard to beat, but that appears to be something new? :cool:T_MAC686 wrote:
Still haven't seen anything on this- tried my best to get a clear photo but it is still a little blurry.
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In the video it looked like a lot of texture on the prototype if I remember correctly. I do like the idea of using a texture like the Urban.T_MAC686 wrote:Do we have any idea what the pattern will be on the FRN? I love the bi-directional texturing but on a gents folder like this I wouldn't mind something smoother, say something like the Centofante 3 or even the Urban/Pingo/Spy-DK.
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Assuming everything has been finalized, I guess I don't understand all the secrecy behind releasing the specs, etc. One can only assume, the final product has not yet been decided, which mean there's a better chance of Hillary getting elected in 2020, than there is us seeing a released FRN/Lightweight in 2017.
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abbazaba wrote:I do like the idea of using a texture like the Urban.
I totally agree, the grid pattern on my Urban provides just the right amount of grip without being too overbearing for light tasks. I’m sure we will be happy with whatever Spyderco chooses but I’m getting anxious for details!Nate wrote:Agree that the "grid" pattern on the slippies is hard to beat
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Have a little patience dude!this_is_nascar wrote:Assuming everything has been finalized, I guess I don't understand all the secrecy behind releasing the specs, etc. One can only assume, the final product has not yet been decided, which mean there's a better chance of Hillary getting elected in 2020, than there is us seeing a released FRN/Lightweight in 2017.
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I wouldn’t be surprised if the FRN on the Chaparral looks like the one on the upcoming Squarehead FRN.
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It is my hope and belief (on what I've seen and read) that it will not be Bi-Directional FRN. The Urban/UKPK texture makes seems like a better candidate assuming it isn't a totally new pattern of FRN.RamZar wrote:I wouldn’t be surprised if the FRN on the Chaparral looks like the one on the upcoming Squarehead FRN.
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