Blending EDC with Self Defense

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Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby ZMW » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:48 am

Alright guys, what is your folder of choice for a nice compromise between EDC and SD? I do not want to pull out my Matriarch or a civilian to open a box at work. But, I want a fully capable SD weapon as well.

Blade length, blade tip, handle/grip, PE/SE, etc.

I personally think the PM2 fits the mold, that is my preference. What else? Millie, endura, any other models I am missing here?

Other consideration, I live in Phoenix. So I can only wear jeans 4-5 months out of the year, so carrying a Millie may not be a great idea in shorts, where as the PM2 is a better fit, but even that is bulky.

Thanks guys!

Edit for Farnorthdan- I fully agree a CCW is the best defense, but in no gun areas, etc, when I can only carry a folder is my concern...
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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby farnorthdan » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:51 am

I'd go with the Military, of course my first line of defense is my CCW.
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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby bearfacedkiller » Fri Jan 13, 2017 11:58 am

I think that the Military would be my first choice but I also think that the Yojimbo2 is the best blend of SD and utility that you can get in a knife.
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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby mrtodd777 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 12:02 pm

I would freaking hate to use a knife in a defensive situation but hypothetically I would recommend a lil matriarch or harpy. I use those knives daily at work while in the shipping department and they are not to scary at all. A hawkbill or reverse S blade is great for a person not to familiar with edged weapon training. I have training in edged weapon defense through years of Krav Maga so I personally prefer the Spyderco Ronin 2, designed by a member of this forum (Michael Janich). I carry one almost daily IWB. But like I mentioned before. A knife would be my VERY LAST thing I would want to have to use. I prefer my sneakers for self defense. They help me get the heck out of there!!

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby SF Native » Fri Jan 13, 2017 1:52 pm

42 years of experience tells me I don't need a knife for self defense. I use hands, feet, voice, and my brain.
Now, I can't cut a lime for a gin and tonic without a knife.

As for a knife with shorts, stick with a frn handle for the extra lightweight. The se salt 1 is so light and would do some serious damage in a fight if you needed one. Maybe a serrated frn native would be good too.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby twinboysdad » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:29 pm

Endura, Delica, Native 5 LW. All EDC well and are pointy

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby ThePeacent » Fri Jan 13, 2017 2:31 pm

one of these lightweight beauties is always in my pocket for everyday tasks and utilities, but I believe all would cause some damage to a human person if it hopefully not) ever came down to that

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they are excellent EDC folders for normal tasks, inexpensive and unobtrusive

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby v8r » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:23 pm

Why would a military be too heavy to carry in shorts? It is probably lighter than a Para. One of the full SE models would fit the bill.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Xplorer » Fri Jan 13, 2017 3:35 pm

For a lot of reasons I don't see using a knife as a weapon as being a very practical choice. But, if you had to...any knife :spyder: long enough and pointy enough to get through..say..jacket material, with a good enough grip to keep your hand from slipping will work well. Beyond that, your skill, training, and mental ability will have far more to do with how effective your defense is.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Larry_Mott » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:04 pm

I only use my knife to cut inanimate objects. For self defense i carry my Puma shoes and a small canister of Sabre Red OC spray.
A quick shower of that, with a optional swift stomp kick to the kneecap and then run like hell is what i feel the best defense.
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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby RoLnD79 » Fri Jan 13, 2017 4:54 pm

Using a EDC knife for self defense should be absolute last resort. They could have a large kitchen knife, and have the advantage over most EDC knives. But if I had to absolutely had to pull out a knife as a last resort, I would hope I just happened to be carrying my K-2 that day.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Donut » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:13 pm

I think that the Delica Wharnie would be a good option.

The Lil Matriarch isn't bad, I don't mind pulling it out to open stuff because it is small-ish. A lot of Self Defense experts argue against Serrations.
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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Surfingringo » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:16 pm

I rarely have fantasy knife fights in my mind but when I do I always use a military. I will occasionally fight a grizzly with one too though I typically have a small fixed blade for heavier work like that.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby zeroed4x » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:20 pm

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I use this for self defense, notice the over sized spydie hole on the CZ.
For back up, anything that has g10 and a blade longer than 3" with quick one hand deployment.
Yes I do EDC the Tatanka once in a while.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby ZMW » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:23 pm

For clarification on my request. I am referring to a scenario when CCW is not allowed (schools mainly) and when I am with my family, that means a 1 yr old and 4 yr old, so running away is hopefully an option but it may not be. I do have 5-6 years of martial arts training (BJJ and some boxing), but not edged weapon training. I do want to take a few classes just to review some basics.

My family and I go to a Jewish Community Center, and lets just say our facility is a higher value target then your average school or public place. No firearms allowed. In the event of a sh*t hit the fan scenario and I need to protect myself, family, and community, I was curious what would be best in your guys opinions.

Thank you all

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Evil D » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:33 pm

You may want to try out a Military in shorts. They're deceptively light for their size.
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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Surfingringo » Fri Jan 13, 2017 5:57 pm

ZMW wrote:For clarification on my request. I am referring to a scenario when CCW is not allowed (schools mainly) and when I am with my family, that means a 1 yr old and 4 yr old, so running away is hopefully an option but it may not be. I do have 5-6 years of martial arts training (BJJ and some boxing), but not edged weapon training. I do want to take a few classes just to review some basics.

My family and I go to a Jewish Community Center, and lets just say our facility is a higher value target then your average school or public place. No firearms allowed. In the event of a sh*t hit the fan scenario and I need to protect myself, family, and community, I was curious what would be best in your guys opinions.

Thank you all
Hey ZMW, for the record, I was just being silly and looking for a laugh in my post. Not trying to devalue the thread in any way. :) My real answer to your question remains the Military though. The long reach and secure grip afforded by the large blade and the larger handle make it one of the better blades in the lineup for emergency SD situations IMO.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby SF Native » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:21 pm

I wonder if the lil matriarch could handle some edc tasks. It might be what you are looking for.
Small, light, versatile. I don't have one, so I couldn't tell. Maybe someone else could answer.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby Surfingringo » Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:25 pm

SF Native wrote:I wonder if the lil matriarch could handle some edc tasks. It might be what you are looking for.
Small, light, versatile. I don't have one, so I couldn't tell. Maybe someone else could answer.

It makes a great EDC. Not quite as versatile as a traditional blade shape but far more useful than most would imagine for many everyday tasks. I love my pe lil Matriarch and have carried it tons as my sole EDC.

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Re: Blending EDC with Self Defense

Postby twinboysdad » Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:47 pm

I will add to this that D3 Protection makes incredible saps and blackjacks and both would be better than a knife(off your state laws allow). My wife has the D3 mini jack which is about 4-5oz and that is about as much as most EDC folders. A shot to the collarbone or wrist would be a fracture and end a fight. A solid swing to the melon could be a depressed skull fracture and death. I would much prefer an Impact weapon over a knife for SD. d3protection.com and please tell Dave that Jeremy from ALABAMA sent you.


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