Red loctite

[adamlau]

For me it is not about whether a user is mechanically inclined, or not. I have PB Swiss/MAC/Wiha/Hakko products just as many of you have. It is that I would rather not spend my time removing screws off of every new Spyderco and cleaning off threadlocker just to ge the product in field repairable condition. We should not have to prep a tool in such a manner. I do not pocket my knives. Rather, they lay in an open toolbelt pocket for ease of access/storage. That said, I trust Spyderco to handle this in a manner which is prudent for both them and the consumer.

[jstrange]

I don't really have much of value to add here, but I wanted to add one more data point for consideration in the hopes that Spyderco is still collecting them. I personally have never disassembled a folding knife of any brand and don't see myself doing so in the future.

However, I have adjusted the pivot on almost every folder that I have owned. I also remove or swap pocket clips frequently. I have more Spyderco knives than any other brand. I have also stripped more Spyderco screws simply trying to switch pocket clips than any other brand.

I don't have a problem with red loctite being applied to screw that are not supposed to be adjusted, but have a big problem with it being added to pivots and clip screws. Just my opinion, for whatever that is worth.

I felt I should go back and add that Spyderco customer service has always taken care of me when I needed extra screws or pocket-clips and such. It was much appreciated.

[RLDubbya]

I have good high quality tools, but they really aren't cheap so that could be a lot of the issue with some that don't want to spend the extra to get them.

I think perhaps a significant part of the issue is that people are not even aware such tools exist. Based on this fact, an argument might be put forward regarding the competency of this subset of users group to perform actual work on knives.

I know that, for example, many people who belong to the "bolt on crew" are not aware of the existence of such tools. When I turned wrenches at a dealership, the number of people incapable of distinguishing a quality torque wrench from junk was shockingly low.

[murphjd25]

I've only ever disassembled my delica to put on some Boomer lil' Para scales. I don't see the need to take apart any of my other spydercos, nor will I ever. Different strokes for different folks!

[AwayFromMySpydieHole]

I don't really have much of value to add here, but I wanted to add one more data point for consideration in the hopes that Spyderco is still collecting them. I personally have never disassembled a folding knife of any brand and don't see myself doing so in the future. However, I have adjusted the pivot on almost every folder that I have owned. I also remove or swap pocket clips frequently. I have more Spyderco knives than any other brand. I have also stripped more Spyderco screws simply trying to switch pocket clips than any other brand. I don't have a problem with red loctite being applied to screw that are not supposed to be adjusted, but have a big problem with it being added to pivots and clip screws. Just my opinion, for whatever that is worth.

Not everyone can get away without disassembly. I know I've gotten sand/dirt in knives so deep that no amount of water/oil/soap/compressed air would get it all out. Sometimes taking hem apart and washing each part individually is the only way.

Hopefully they change their minds on this particular policy.

[jstrange]

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I did not mean to imply that it's never necessary to take one apart, just that I personally don't need to. I can definitely see where there would be circumstances that would require it. To each his own and all that.

[Surfingringo]

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[JRinFL]

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[demoncase]

I just keep thinking of all the times I've had to drill and tap and easy out broken bolts when working on my car, and this issue just shrinks in significance. Go try getting the threads out of a 50 year old cylinder head when a rocker stud shears off below the surface​.

Or, indeed, the deep joy that can only come from working 1970s and 80s motorbike brake calipers where every steel bolt either shears off in the aluminium body or pulls the thread with it.

But we digress.

[palonej]

Surprising to see so many Spydie 'fans' are not going to be buying any new offerings unless Sal stops the presses and shoots any employees using red loctite.
Get right on that Sal!!
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[Bodog]

Surprising to see so many Spydie 'fans' are not going to be buying any new offerings unless Sal stops the presses and shoots any employees using red loctite.
Get right on that Sal!!
Ugh

Nice troll post. Anything worthwhile to offer? Constructive criticism? Good suggestions? Anything at all to offer? Shoot, even just a decent point of discussion would be cool.

[TALON52]

Surprising to see so many Spydie 'fans' are not going to be buying any new offerings unless Sal stops the presses and shoots any employees using red loctite.
Get right on that Sal!!
Ugh

Nice troll post. Anything worthwhile to offer? Constructive criticism? Good suggestions? Anything at all to offer? Shoot, even just a decent point of discussion would be cool.

I agree with "palone", I stopped buying Spyderco knives after I picked up a Para 3, but I haven't stopped buying knives! The Red loctite issue just got me to start looking at different knife manufactures. I believe I've spent in excess of $4,000 on other knives since my last Spyderco purchase that don't use Red Loctite, nor do they care if I take them apart!




I enjoy modding different items like, knives, cars, boats, guns, ect, ect. It's fun, and keeps me busy.






I have no problem with Spyderco using Blue Loctite, and I love my spides, I just hope that changes are in the works!

Oh, and if you want to call me a "troll", go for it!

[sal]

We're having a major meeting on all of these issues on Tuesday.

sal

[Ankerson]

Well they could use Purple or none on the Pivot, pocket clip screws and RED on all the rest of the screws.

That would allow for adjustment of the Pivot and changing out the pocket clip without issues.

As for the rest I don't really see the need to take the whole knife apart as per the warranty.

[roger-roger]

We're having a major meeting on all of these issues on Tuesday.

sal

Not sure why some are writing off the brand so quickly. This is pretty dam*ed responsive.

Imo this is one of those cases where its better to not have it.

[Squawk]

So I've yet only read from what seems to be Red Loctite or similar strong threadlocker on models coming out of Golden, Seki or Taichung. Does anyone have information or experience in that regard with models coming out of China or Maniago recently? Just curious.

[SG89]

So I've yet only read from what seems to be Red Loctite or similar strong threadlocker on models coming out of Golden, Seki or Taichung. Does anyone have information or experience in that regard with models coming out of China or Maniago recently? Just curious.

My Efficient had clear thread locker and my EdgeMatters Forum K390 Pingo had zero threadlocker.

[Taypo]

We're having a major meeting on all of these issues on Tuesday.

sal

Not sure why some are writing off the brand so quickly. This is pretty dam*ed responsive.

Imo this is one of those cases where its better to not have it.

In the grand scheme of big manufacturing, you're probably right - 3+ months from the time an issue became an issue to the time they scheduled a meeting about it isnt bad. I'll agree that its progress, but here's my issue:

How many knives are on retail shelves right now with red loctite in them? No clue on production numbers but even if they back off the red tomorrow, they've shipped a whole bunch in the last few months that were assembled that way. I'd say there's probably a pretty good chance of getting red loctite for a while yet, so I'll continue to spend my knife cash elsewhere.

[NickShabazz]

We're having a major meeting on all of these issues on Tuesday.

sal

Thanks, Sal. Between your open handling of this issue and the (overhyped) bearing CQI issue, I've come to respect you, Eric, and the leadership team at Spyderco even more. And Kristi has handled this upswelling of negativity on the forums and Facebook brilliantly and positively (She should probably get a raise in all of this!).

I really do hope that you'll be able to find a solution which works well for everybody involved. We only complain so much because we like your work so much :)

[Larry_Mott]

I am sitting here looking at my 1984 Buck 110, 1988 Schrade LB7 and my 1992 Delica and wonder how i survived, or rather, how they survived for all those years without disassembly. :)