Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

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Would you buy a higher end Tenacious?

Absolutely!
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52%
Nope, I'm fine with 8Cr13Mov/China
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48%
 
Total votes: 90

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Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Evil D » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:28 am

The Tenacious has so much going for it, from great simple ergonomics that work, to having an equal amount of edge length and blade length, which is something of a rare feature in this day of 50/50 choils. I have no problem with Chinese made Spydies, and it definitely fills a need in the value lineup. But, I think the design is good enough to merit a high end steel and higher end fit and finish to go along with it. Despite everything good it has going for it, I just need something more in those two departments.

So, who's with me?
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Bdubs808 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 8:36 am

This is a topic I had planned on starting a thread on, you conveyed exactly what I was thinking.
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby abbazaba » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:40 am

Agreed. Been hoping this would happen eventually.

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby tripscheck'em » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:54 am

it doesn't have to be super premium for me. I'd be fine with made in USA and cts-bd1.

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Still Working » Thu Dec 01, 2016 10:56 am

Sounds good!
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby SteelSpyder » Thu Dec 01, 2016 12:55 pm

HAP-40 orange g-10 Tenacious anyone? :D

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby elena86 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:13 pm

AEB-L steel is the winning formula

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby SpyderNut » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:27 pm

elena86 wrote:AEB-L steel is the winning formula

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That sounds good to me.


Perhaps the "Premium Tenacious" could eventually even act like a folding Mule Series? (I.e. Offer higher end or new steels in an affordable folder package).
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby ABX2011 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 1:46 pm

If you want a better steel and better fit and finish, you're talking about a different knife made somewhere else.

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby twinboysdad » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:10 pm

tripscheck'em wrote:it doesn't have to be super premium for me. I'd be fine with made in USA and cts-bd1.
That would be like going to 2nd base with a call girl. If we doin this, do it all the way. Liner lock equal to Military and premium steel.

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby twinboysdad » Thu Dec 01, 2016 3:12 pm

ABX2011 wrote:If you want a better steel and better fit and finish, you're talking about a different knife made somewhere else.
Sal listens, and if it suits his fancy or looks like a business move, this could happen. Might be a Taichung thing instead of Golden, but never say never with Spyderco

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby clovisc » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:01 pm

Isn't the Foundry the "premium Tenacious?"

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Spydergirl88 » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:23 pm

clovisc wrote:Isn't the Foundry the "premium Tenacious?"
Yes

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Mr Danger » Thu Dec 01, 2016 5:51 pm

tripscheck'em wrote:it doesn't have to be super premium for me. I'd be fine with made in USA and cts-bd1.
Polestar is halfway there
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Evil D » Thu Dec 01, 2016 6:08 pm

ABX2011 wrote:If you want a better steel and better fit and finish, you're talking about a different knife made somewhere else.
Well show me a knife in a similar size in FFG with good ergonomics and an edge that comes clear back to the handle.
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby FCM415 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 6:18 am

Too bad it has yet to happen. Remember the one time discussed 52100 Tenacious? How about the time when Sal told us that a planned better steel Tenacious was scrapped because he didn't like the HT inconsistency (when they use non- China steels) in China facilities that he dealt with at the time. Maybe things change now and they can manage to HT (beyond BD1) to Sal's standards?

BTW, I think that they intend to have the Polestar fill a role somewhat of a higher end updated Tenacious.

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Evil D » Fri Dec 02, 2016 8:36 am

FCM415 wrote:
BTW, I think that they intend to have the Polestar fill a role somewhat of a higher end updated Tenacious.
It's a step in that direction for sure. I'm more interested in that machined pattern in the G10.
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby FCM415 » Fri Dec 02, 2016 9:18 am

Evil D wrote:
It's a step in that direction for sure. I'm more interested in that machined pattern in the G10.
It looks like it's gonna be excellent. $50 price range is wide open competitively and it checks a lot of boxes.

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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby Donut » Sat Dec 03, 2016 7:56 am

As far as I know, the factory using Carpenter BD-1 in China is a different factory than the one making the Tenacious.

I would consider the Raven a premium Tenacious. But yeah, I'd love to see either with M4 or something.
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Re: Official Petition for a Premium Tenacious

Postby wrdwrght » Sat Dec 03, 2016 12:47 pm

Doesn't enthuse me.

Just as the flipper sensation has clouded one of Spyderco's genuine claims to fame, gentrifying the affordable Tenacious will confuse Spyderco's best invitation to its wondrous brand.

These opinions are minority ones, I know.


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