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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby DirtMcGirt » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:12 pm

MMGRenovations wrote:
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I got mine in and they feel really good. They definitely have more aggressive jimping. They are also a little gritty. I hope it goes away with use. Image
Awesome! Thank you! That’s what I was hoping to hear about the texture. :D The grittiness though? Is it from rubbing on the liners?
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby VashHash » Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:57 pm

They said it will require some break in on the website. More importantly we need pictures.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby Evil D » Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:50 pm

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Just as an FYI: Flytanium heard our plea and now has Ti, brass and copper Manix 2 ball cages available!

I have a Ti cage on order (sadly, it's blue as they don't have natural finish available now, despite the only image being the naked Ti) and as soon as it's installed in my CruWear/CF Manix, I'll report back on the details.
I'm not certain how titanium May differ but I used to remove anodizing from aluminum parts with Easy Off oven cleaner.
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby bearfacedkiller » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:30 pm

Copper cage.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby MMGRenovations » Wed Jul 17, 2019 4:41 pm

Sorry I didn’t notice the picture didn’t work on my other post
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby awa54 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:16 pm

Evil D wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 3:50 pm
awa54 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 1:41 pm
Just as an FYI: Flytanium heard our plea and now has Ti, brass and copper Manix 2 ball cages available!

I have a Ti cage on order (sadly, it's blue as they don't have natural finish available now, despite the only image being the naked Ti) and as soon as it's installed in my CruWear/CF Manix, I'll report back on the details.
I'm not certain how titanium May differ but I used to remove anodizing from aluminum parts with Easy Off oven cleaner.

depending on how dark the blue ano is I may install the Ti cage on my S110V Manix... if it works out *and* they don't get natural finish back in stock, then I can try the oven cleaner.
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby MMGRenovations » Wed Jul 17, 2019 5:43 pm

DirtMcGirt wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:12 pm
MMGRenovations wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 2:00 pm
I got mine in and they feel really good. They definitely have more aggressive jimping. They are also a little gritty. I hope it goes away with use. Image
Awesome! Thank you! That’s what I was hoping to hear about the texture. :D The grittiness though? Is it from rubbing on the liners?
No the grittiness feels like it’s coming from the ball rolling in the cage. I think it will smooth out. I wonder if the copper one feels like that as well.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby bearfacedkiller » Wed Jul 17, 2019 6:08 pm

My copper cage feels just like the plastic one did. It was a little tight at first but I only had to open and close it a couple dozen times and it smoothed right out.
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby ladybug93 » Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:28 pm

i wish spyderco had used a different material than plastic for the g10 manix. i’ve never thought the plastic looked or felt right with the g10. it’s fine for the lw though.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby bearfacedkiller » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:18 am

ladybug93 wrote:
Wed Jul 17, 2019 11:28 pm
i wish spyderco had used a different material than plastic for the g10 manix. i’ve never thought the plastic looked or felt right with the g10. it’s fine for the lw though.
The Manix cage is an intricate part. Making it metal requires machining a small part. These aftermarket cages are over $30 and made in China. If Spyderco sold the Manix with a metal cage that was made in Golden I would expect the price of the Manix to go up considerably. That is most likely why they are plastic.

Having bought one of the metal cages I can say that I see no benefit functionally to them. It is probably more durable but i never broke the plastic one either. I bought it for aesethetics.
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby Ez556 » Thu Jul 18, 2019 10:34 am

Flytanium has Manix ball cages in Titanium ($39), copper ($34) and brass ($34). The titanium ones come in either a stonewash or anodized for $6 more. *edit* oops, totally missed the fact that there are 3 pages and this fact has already been stated :o
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby ferider » Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:14 am

bearfacedkiller wrote:
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Having bought one of the metal cages I can say that I see no benefit functionally to them. It is probably more durable but i never broke the plastic one either. I bought it for aesethetics.
For the original black cages, I agree with you.

However, I have had two broken white cages, one in a knife from ebay, one I broke myself. I just exchanged two white cages on XHP Manixes with Ti ones, and there it makes a noticeable difference: even the action feels a little snappier. Now, I put in ceramic bearings too, so not sure if the improvement comes from the bearings or the Ti cages.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby JohnAPA » Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:09 pm

Is it the same size as the Manix XL cage?

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby ferider » Thu Jul 18, 2019 8:33 pm

JohnAPA wrote:
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Is it the same size as the Manix XL cage?
Yes.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby awa54 » Fri Jul 19, 2019 8:42 am

ferider wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 11:14 am
bearfacedkiller wrote:
Thu Jul 18, 2019 4:18 am
Having bought one of the metal cages I can say that I see no benefit functionally to them. It is probably more durable but i never broke the plastic one either. I bought it for aesethetics.
For the original black cages, I agree with you.

However, I have had two broken white cages, one in a knife from ebay, one I broke myself. I just exchanged two white cages on XHP Manixes with Ti ones, and there it makes a noticeable difference: even the action feels a little snappier. Now, I put in ceramic bearings too, so not sure if the improvement comes from the bearings or the Ti cages.

not that I don't own a caliper, but do you remember what size ball is in the Manix lock?
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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby kirilpetkov » Fri Jul 19, 2019 11:32 am

The size of the ball is 3/16. In this subject I have shown my tuning on my Manix.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby ferider » Fri Jul 19, 2019 1:56 pm

David, if you use Amazon, I bought these and they work: 3/16" Inch Si3N4 Silicon Nitride Ceramic Ball Bearings G5-5 Balls.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby ferider » Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:50 am

All three have ceramic bearings now, too. Interestingly, the new cage/bearing fixed the XL (s90v) lock-stick that I couldn't fix before. And the cage is more accessible, which was a problem with the fat Cuscadi scales before.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby shunsui » Thu Jul 25, 2019 11:02 pm

https://www.flytaniumco.com/item/389/Sp ... -Ball-Cage

Got some in the mail the other day. Didn't think this was ever going to happen.

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Re: Manix titanium ball bearing cage

Postby Elshauno » Fri Jul 26, 2019 8:52 am

ferider wrote:
Tue Jul 23, 2019 7:50 am
All three have ceramic bearings now, too. Interestingly, the new cage/bearing fixed the XL (s90v) lock-stick that I couldn't fix before. And the cage is more accessible, which was a problem with the fat Cuscadi scales before.

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Did you add the extra screw near the clip holes? That's one of the reasons I want a XL because it seems more sturdy like that


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