Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

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Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby SpeedHoles » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:10 pm

I just read in the latest Spyderco Byte email that there will be some Coarse texture black G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2's available.

How would one go about getting one? Parts numbers are the same I think.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby RadioactiveSpyder » Thu Mar 31, 2016 5:30 pm

This topic comes up from time to time here, so hopefully this picture will shed better light on how coarse these G10 scales will be. :)

Below are three different G10 scales with increasing degrees of coarseness. On the bottom is a standard Manix 2, with the regular fairly fine texture G10 used on PM2s, Millies, M2s, N5s, etc. Next is the BD30P Manix 2 sprint with "medium" coarse G10, and on top is a Southard scale dyed black. The Southard has true "coarse" G10 as the manufacturers and knife suppliers define it.

My Domino and Pingo in the other thread are also true coarse scales. As I understand the SpyderByte story, the limited run of PM2s and Yo2s will have scales more akin to the BD30P sprint (middle) below. Hope that helps! Cheers, Radioactive :)

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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Mad Mac » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:01 pm

Well, I think the burning question is
how does one know which G10 texture they are buying
and conversely how might one order a specific texture.
It doesn't seem that difficult for the Company to add a code,
such as G10C for coarse texture.
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Postby SpyderNut » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:11 pm

Just saw this in the Byte too. I think it is pretty cool that Spyderco chose to divulge this temporary change-up on the PM2 and Yo2 models. From a user's standpoint, I imagine that some folks may actually prefer the coarser texture over the finer texture. I'd also be willing to bet that these two models may eventually become more collectable given their limited production numbers and unique back story. (Kind of like the S30V Techno).
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby PayneTrain » Thu Mar 31, 2016 6:46 pm

SpyderNut wrote:Just saw this in the Byte too. I think it is pretty cool that Spyderco chose to divulge this temporary change-up on the PM2 and Yo2 models. From a user's standpoint, I imagine that some folks may actually prefer the coarser texture over the finer texture. I'd also be willing to bet that these two models may eventually become more collectable given their limited production numbers and unique back story. (Kind of like the S30V Techno).
I just read the news, and thought the exact same thing. I think the only regret Spyderco may have here is a new demand not only for different steels, blade shapes, colors, and handle materials within the same model, but now different G10 textures! We love our variety and customizability, though I doubt they'd give in to this idea. I'm interested to see what people think of it on this platform, as I don't see any coarse PM2's making their way to my pockets. I'm assuming it was only a batch of black which I have no need for. I enjoy my Southard's G10 very much. Is it going to be that same texture exactly?
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Evil D » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:22 pm

I much prefer course texture G10.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby farnorthdan » Thu Mar 31, 2016 9:35 pm

I'd like to check out one of these coarse pieces, I wonder how hard it will be to snag one, we should keep this thread updated if anyone finds out where to buy.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby DougC-3 » Thu Mar 31, 2016 11:45 pm

Seems that the only avenue at present is to ask a cooperative dealer to look in a few boxes, or if you have a local B&M of course you could check that way. If the blue Yo2 or black blade PM2 were on my list, I'd definitely go all out to get the coarse one. If it had been the satin blade, I might have put one on my list, though right now the jade M4 is the only PM2 I'm planning for.

The label coding system is probably too engraved in stone to alter for a G-10 variation, but they might be persuaded to somehow mark the boxes.

I think the G-10 variations will be a welcomed must-buy for people who want a complete collection of Yojimbos or PM2's.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Leadsled » Fri Apr 01, 2016 1:31 am

The camo scales on my C81GCMOBK2 feel coarser or grippier than the black scales on my buddy's all black PM2.

I personally prefer it.

In the article, Spyderco describes the deviation as an "unexpected problem". They didn't realize the difference until after the scales had been machined and the protective layer was peeled off.
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Postby Mad Mac » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:05 am

DougC-3 wrote:The label coding system is probably too engraved in stone to alter for a G-10 variation, but they might be persuaded to somehow mark the boxes.
Yes, by all means. Clearly there is some demand for it.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby ABX2011 » Fri Apr 01, 2016 7:53 am

I prefer the finer texture.

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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Liquid Cobra » Fri Apr 01, 2016 10:26 am

I bought a Yojimbo 2 from the Spyderco Factory Outlet store two weeks ago. Its manufacturing date according to the box is January/2016 or AP. I got to thinking last night that my Yojimbo 2 might have the coarser G10 mentioned in this months Spyderbyte. So this morning I compared it to my satin/black PM2 and my DLC/Black PM2. I first compared it to my satin PM2 and I thought the Yojimbo's texture was much coarser, but when I compared it to the DLC version it kinda looked the same. I'm not convinced either way. I will say that the G10 on my Yojimbo 2 does feel pretty grippy, but I figured that was just because it was brand new and hasn't had a chance to wear down yet. Here are some side by sides.

What do you guys think?

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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Liquid Cobra » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:52 pm

Anyone?
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby SpeedHoles » Fri Apr 01, 2016 8:56 pm

They appear the same, or atleast very very similar, texture.
Seems like they can almost be viewed in terms of resolution, or "pixels", of how coarse or how fine...
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Liquid Cobra » Fri Apr 01, 2016 9:06 pm

Yeah I figured as much. I'd be interested to see someone post the coarser g10 should they receive one.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby remnar » Fri Apr 01, 2016 11:31 pm

Liquid Cobra wrote:Yeah I figured as much. I'd be interested to see someone post the coarser g10 should they receive one.
Here's the picture from the Spyderco byte.

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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Evil D » Sat Apr 02, 2016 8:53 am

I'd love it even more course than that, like Kershaw used on their G10 Leek.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Sharp Guy » Sat Apr 02, 2016 10:25 pm

I just read this in Spyderbyte earlier today. I'd give the course G10 a try.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby SpeedHoles » Tue Apr 05, 2016 6:16 pm

RadioactiveSpyder wrote:As I understand the SpyderByte story, the limited run of PM2s and Yo2s will have scales more akin to the BD30P sprint (middle) below. Hope that helps! Cheers, Radioactive :)

I'm guessing this is spot on as to what will be the case. Probably same texture as that BD30P Manix 2.
I doubt it will be ultra course.


Mad Mac wrote:Well, I think the burning question is
how does one know which G10 texture they are buying
and conversely how might one order a specific texture.

Yep, that was my basic question! It sounds like it'll just be a roll of the dice whether one can be accurately sourced...
Now wondering how many retailers are going to get sick of answering calls requesting they go through their boxes of fresh black Paramilitary 2's and Yojimbo 2's and start feeling for texture! :p





And, another random shot of G10 variation. I forgot my black Wilkins Grip was the course style (also have a brown in alternatively very smooth G10).
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Seems the Chokwe has similar ever so slightly courser G10 like the Southard as well. Maybe not quite as course as we will be seeing on this mistake batch we are discussing.
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Re: Coarse texture G10 Paramilitary 2 and Yojimbo 2?

Postby Fred Sanford » Thu Apr 14, 2016 11:22 am

I just bought an all black Para 2 from Knifeworks. It arrived yesterday and is for sure the coarse G10. I'll see if I can get some pics of it and post them. I talked to them on the phone this morning and ALL of the stock that they currently have is coarse G10 (for the all black model only).
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