Please no more paperclip pocket clips

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Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Slash » Fri Mar 18, 2016 3:58 pm

Sorry. I just can't stand them. Main reason is side to side motion isn't very secure. Also, wear marks on the handle from use are very prevalent.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Surfingringo » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:09 pm

I also find they catch and bend easier. Not my favorites either, but not a deal breaker or anything.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Blerv » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:20 pm

My experience with bent clips is minimal, only a couple. Both have been stamped vs the wire clips but I do own more with stamped clips tho.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby rybu0305 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 4:40 pm

I like the wire clips. Mine all have good retention and I've never had a problem with side to side movement. I find they have a good balance of retention and ease of putting in pocket.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Nasgul » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:23 pm

I like both clip ! :p
Both have something for the knife they are on.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Evil D » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:24 pm

I like them on small light knives, I like hourglass on medium sized and up. Weight is the deciding factor for me. I had absolutely no problem with my Manix 2 LW having a wire clip but I wouldn't want it on my G10 Manix 2. I think they definitely have their place though. I wouldn't want an hourglass clip on a Dragonfly.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Ranger393 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:31 pm

Evil D wrote:I like them on small light knives, I like hourglass on medium sized and up. Weight is the deciding factor for me. I had absolutely no problem with my Manix 2 LW having a wire clip but I wouldn't want it on my G10 Manix 2. I think they definitely have their place though. I wouldn't want an hourglass clip on a Dragonfly.
+1 to everything ED said.

I also really enjoy the wire clip on my S110V Manix LW but couldn't imagine having one on something like my Military or even a Pacific Salt.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby palonej » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:39 pm

No problems here with the wire clips. They're great on the Manix LW.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby SpeedHoles » Fri Mar 18, 2016 5:58 pm

I have no problem with any of my knives with wire clips, even heavier ones like the SuperLeaf.
I really have come to appreciate the Spyderco clips.

But, I do agree that it's unfortunate that these clips do rub the handle material
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby gunmike1 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:04 pm

To me the wire clips are a lot more ergonomic if you actually do cutting with your knives. The hourglass clips aren't rounded enough on the edges and hot spot my hands on anything but light cutting. I wish they used wire clips on more knives. To solve the side to side movement I'm sure a heavier gauge wire would solve that.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby SpeedHoles » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:15 pm

gunmike1 wrote:To me the wire clips are a lot more ergonomic if you actually do cutting with your knives. The hourglass clips aren't rounded enough on the edges and hot spot my hands on anything but light cutting. I wish they used wire clips on more knives. To solve the side to side movement I'm sure a heavier gauge wire would solve that.


Yeah, I got into a short phase at one point where I thought a lot of these "custom" aftermarket deep carry clips were the best mod you could do, and I was temporarily disappointed I couldn't put some on my wire clip equipped knives.
Then, after spending all the money on them and installing on various knives, I realized the hard way that they all just kill the ergos when in use! Really only a vanity modification that sacrifices function.

The stock Spyderco clips really are the best, whether wire or hourglass.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Surfingringo » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:17 pm

Evil D wrote:I like them on small light knives, I like hourglass on medium sized and up. Weight is the deciding factor for me. I had absolutely no problem with my Manix 2 LW having a wire clip but I wouldn't want it on my G10 Manix 2. I think they definitely have their place though. I wouldn't want an hourglass clip on a Dragonfly.
Yeah...I'm changing my answer to this one. ^

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Jmotley » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:36 pm

Agree with Evil D. Could not imagine my Caly 3.5 without the wire clip. Love it. And I like the hourglass on the endura and para 2. I've had more bent hourglass clips but they may also be due to the kind of environments those knives are in.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby 3rdGenRigger » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:45 pm

Evil D wrote:I like them on small light knives, I like hourglass on medium sized and up. Weight is the deciding factor for me. I had absolutely no problem with my Manix 2 LW having a wire clip but I wouldn't want it on my G10 Manix 2. I think they definitely have their place though. I wouldn't want an hourglass clip on a Dragonfly.
That's hitting the nail on the head. I couldn't agree more.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby bh49 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 6:53 pm

low riding wire clips are the best. I can only wish that all my Natives had them.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby BostonTom » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:46 pm

Exactly....I agree, they are great for lighter knives.
I've carried 2-LW Manix 2s and a Cat quite a bit. No problems. I have not carried my Sages a lot, but so far so good.
Also, the wire clip doesn't seem like it would work well with a longer handled knives even if fairly light.

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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby Evil D » Fri Mar 18, 2016 7:52 pm

I think 99% of the problems people have with them would be solved if they could be bent so that they sat closer down to the handle scale, but I'm not sure if the wire can be bent to that tight of a radius. I wouldn't even mind if the hourglass clips were 1/16 or so lower to the clip.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby murphjd25 » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:03 pm

I've replaced all of my clips with Casey Lynch clips :-) Love them.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby farnorthdan » Fri Mar 18, 2016 8:31 pm

Also don't care much for the wire clips, prefer stamped. I do have have few with the wire clip and carry them but they just seem a little flimsy to me.
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Re: Please no more paperclip pocket clips

Postby timlara » Fri Mar 18, 2016 10:39 pm

Another +1 for Evil's first comment...

For the knifes I carry most, I greatly prefer the wire clips. So much so, that it is actually a big influence on whether or not I want to purchase a new knife at this point. I just find that they are generally far more comfortable / less noticeable when the knife is in hand. I've also had no issues with bending or durability because in my experience, they actually tend to hang up less on stuff I'm walking past than the stamped clips do. When they do hang on stuff, they also tend to do less damage. I've scratched the hell out of a few things by snagging with a stamped steel clip. Plus, I just think the wire clips look nicer on most knives.

But as Evil said, it really does depend on the size and weight and general design of the knife. No question the stamped clips feel sturdier, but I just don't think they're necessary for smaller, lighter, or "gentleman" style knives.


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