pin construction fans
pin construction fans
Any other fans of pin construction.
I appreciate it in that I never need to worry about losing a screw or my blade becoming lose
I've used one of and on as a edc blade and never had a issue with one.
Any one else out there like the pined ones.
I appreciate it in that I never need to worry about losing a screw or my blade becoming lose
I've used one of and on as a edc blade and never had a issue with one.
Any one else out there like the pined ones.
Re: pin construction fans
I wouldn't say I'm a fan but if the knife is right it won't stop me from buying and using it especially if the pivot is screwed. That said, I do greatly prefer screw construction.
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Re: pin construction fans
I have a few, guess I hadn't really given it much thought. I don't usually take my knifes apart so not too big of a deal. There have been a couple that I was glad were screw construction only because the blade wasn't centered and I was able to fix it by loosening the screws and tweaking the scales a bit.
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Re: pin construction fans
I have 2 Manix lwts, one totally pinned the other has a pivot screw and believe it or not, the pinned one has better action and blade is perfectly centered.
Im a fan!
Joe
Im a fan!
Joe
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Hmmpalonej wrote:I have 2 Manix lwts, one totally pinned the other has a pivot screw and believe it or not, the pinned one has better action and blade is perfectly centered.
Im a fan!
Joe
I wish I had a pinned one so I could compare the two. I didn't know that they existed.
I'm not a fan of the lock but I had to buy a lightweight to check it out.
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Re: pin construction fans
On inexpensive knives pins are fine. You don't want it on higher end knives because if something goes wrong you're ... screwed :)
Re: pin construction fans
Going to have to disagree with you based on all the traditionals and modern folders I have and seen used for years without issue. People have been cleaning them for years with some warm soap and water. The demand for the "ability to take my knife apart" was only recently a big thing in comparison to the greater knife history.zhyla wrote:On inexpensive knives pins are fine. You don't want it on higher end knives because if something goes wrong you're ... screwed :)
I am a pinned construction fan. Pinning a knife is far more complicated than people give it credit for. Even the change from pinned construction to screw construction on the Salt series was because it was easier in manufacturing to use screws rather than pinned construction.
To pin something like this is a marvel to me.
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Pinned knives are great. The Goddard and cento3 are both pinned and I think I escaped them the most
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I don't mind pinned construction but I prefer screws.
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Re: pin construction fans
In Terzuola's book, The Tactical Folding Knife, he states that he admired bladesmiths who used pins but that he found it more difficult and preferred Torx screws. Understandable on custom, handmade knives like his. Conversely, on mass produced knives cranked out by the thousands using machines, pins would presumably be faster and less costly than screws.
In my meager collection, the 1990 vintage Endura and Delica are pinned. The stainless Mariner has no visible pins or screws. (How do they do that?) All others, including the Value Line Tenacious and modestly priced Byrd Cara Cara, have screws. In my view, the screws are a sign of precision engineering and quality construction. While as a rule I have no objection to pinned knives, on one folder I bought in Germany in 1970 the Solingen blade sadly became wobbly about the pivot.
In my meager collection, the 1990 vintage Endura and Delica are pinned. The stainless Mariner has no visible pins or screws. (How do they do that?) All others, including the Value Line Tenacious and modestly priced Byrd Cara Cara, have screws. In my view, the screws are a sign of precision engineering and quality construction. While as a rule I have no objection to pinned knives, on one folder I bought in Germany in 1970 the Solingen blade sadly became wobbly about the pivot.
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I'll take flush pins over screws, domed pins, and rivets.
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Re: pin construction fans
I have the manix lws and have no problem with the pins. However I do appreciate the screwed piviot, but thats more of a just incase kind of thing. I have never had a reason to take any of my knives apart so the whole pins v screws is a bit of a non issue with me.
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Have treated me right over the years. :)
Just like any hardware in any application; all depends on quality of materials & tolerances. I've seen my share of cheap screws, nuts & bolts, and horrible threads, etc...
If a rivet is done right, it'll be tight.
Just like any hardware in any application; all depends on quality of materials & tolerances. I've seen my share of cheap screws, nuts & bolts, and horrible threads, etc...
If a rivet is done right, it'll be tight.
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Re: pin construction fans
Given this one I bumb because I know there is more of us.
I myself don't mind a pivot screw. The rest should be pinned.
I also prefer the plastic clip. Never broke one
Back to basics. If you get it right the first time go with it. Don't stop using it.
I myself don't mind a pivot screw. The rest should be pinned.
I also prefer the plastic clip. Never broke one
Back to basics. If you get it right the first time go with it. Don't stop using it.
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Not really a fan, but knives that can be totally cleaned without taking apart & rustproof (Salts) are ok with me. It's the smoothest lockback compared to other (Endura & Cara2). Lance, you're right about linerless lockback!
If it is a bit loose, tapping the pins can tighten them.
Watching some manufacturing process, screw is actually easier and faster. Pinning requires certain precision and the right amount of force tapping them. It was a video done by Stefan Schmalhaus on Le Camarguais.
If it is a bit loose, tapping the pins can tighten them.
Watching some manufacturing process, screw is actually easier and faster. Pinning requires certain precision and the right amount of force tapping them. It was a video done by Stefan Schmalhaus on Le Camarguais.
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Re: pin construction fans
Nothing wrong with pins, I have many old style slipjoints and some lock backs that are pinned. Some are much more expensive than my best modern folders, never had a problem with any of them. Some get hard use when I'm out hunting or treking.