Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby MichaelScott » Thu Jan 07, 2016 6:18 pm

You probably got a used knife. Notify the seller, ask for a return authorization and to credit you for another knife or refund.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby Larry_Mott » Fri Jan 08, 2016 2:31 am

eCop! *is* a reputable dealer.. You don't get 99,6% positive ratings on 800 000 + sales on eBay if you're a crook :)
That said, i had a look at their feedback, and last month seems to have many complaints.. I have never had a problem with them though.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby anagarika » Fri Jan 08, 2016 8:35 am

There is a fake black Tenacious but haven't heard of others in the value line. Fakers always take the best sellers or most popular model. Yours look more like used rather than fake.

The oil or smudges are normal for this line though.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby knolan » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:34 am

dezenten wrote:Is there a better quality knife in the same size?
Yep...the "Techno" is extremely similar in form. If you like the chunky appeal of the Ambitious, I'm guessing you'll love the Techno's far superior materials, and meticulous build quality. I own both, and the Ambitious segued me into Spyderco's higher end folders and wide array of powdered metallurgy blade steels.

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby Larry_Mott » Fri Jan 08, 2016 10:36 am

I'd take a loong look at the Byrd Crow 2..
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby dezenten » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:23 pm

Larry_Mott wrote:I'd take a loong look at the Byrd Crow 2..
Tack!

I will have a look at the Byrd, isn't that a sister company to Spyderco?

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby dezenten » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:26 pm

MichaelScott wrote:You probably got a used knife. Notify the seller, ask for a return authorization and to credit you for another knife or refund.
Thanks for you advice, problem is i live in Sweden and i pay $23 every time it crosses the border to Sweden otherwise sending the knife back would be the ideal thing to do.

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby dezenten » Sun Jan 10, 2016 7:27 pm

knolan wrote:
dezenten wrote:Is there a better quality knife in the same size?
Yep...the "Techno" is extremely similar in form. If you like the chunky appeal of the Ambitious, I'm guessing you'll love the Techno's far superior materials, and meticulous build quality. I own both, and the Ambitious segued me into Spyderco's higher end folders and wide array of powdered metallurgy blade steels.
Thank you, i do like the design of the Techno but i am paying that money i need to do way more research before buying and compare it to several other knifes :)

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby Larry_Mott » Mon Jan 11, 2016 2:09 am

dezenten wrote:
Larry_Mott wrote:I'd take a loong look at the Byrd Crow 2..
Tack!

I will have a look at the Byrd, isn't that a sister company to Spyderco?
Yeah, Byrd knives is a Spyderco branch. The ones i have handled are quite nice. The Raven 2 is equal, in my eyes to Spydercos 3 x the price. Sal really hit a homerun with that one. That's why i recommended the Crow, it's a slightly smaller Raven :)
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby SpydyLover1234 » Mon Jan 11, 2016 8:17 pm

looks good to me

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby Lusitania » Tue Feb 02, 2016 9:29 am

Hi there !
Yes, I had exactly the same experience with this seller a few weeks ago in December and I asked myself the same question, my Ambitious came without any paper in an odd box (almost destroyed with unusual marks).
I live in France and the package arrived unopened, so it means that the seller send it as is (no mishandled custom verification).
It's not a big deal, just a few dollars but I won't buy from eCop! in the future, on eBay for Europe I advise Whitemountainknives and Outfittercountry, these are serious and trusted sellers who ask reasonable shipping costs.
Besides, I wasn't impressed by the Ambitious, ok it's a very cheap knife but I don't like the overall construction neither the 8cr13mov steel, it's a bulky and quite heavy knife for its size. I agree with many here, the Dragonfly 2 especially in zdp-189 steel (which I have on my Ladybug BRG, hell I love that knife) is a way better choice for edc : it's smaller and lighter in the pocket with the same blade length. In between I carry a brand new Chicago with the BD1 (great) steel, nice little one too !
I'll keep the Ambitious in my car as a backup knife, it'll probably sleep there a few years I guess ;-)
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby dezenten » Fri Feb 12, 2016 1:19 pm

Lusitania wrote:Hi there !
Yes, I had exactly the same experience with this seller a few weeks ago in December and I asked myself the same question, my Ambitious came without any paper in an odd box (almost destroyed with unusual marks).
I live in France and the package arrived unopened, so it means that the seller send it as is (no mishandled custom verification).
It's not a big deal, just a few dollars but I won't buy from eCop! in the future, on eBay for Europe I advise Whitemountainknives and Outfittercountry, these are serious and trusted sellers who ask reasonable shipping costs.
Besides, I wasn't impressed by the Ambitious, ok it's a very cheap knife but I don't like the overall construction neither the 8cr13mov steel, it's a bulky and quite heavy knife for its size. I agree with many here, the Dragonfly 2 especially in zdp-189 steel (which I have on my Ladybug BRG, hell I love that knife) is a way better choice for edc : it's smaller and lighter in the pocket with the same blade length. In between I carry a brand new Chicago with the BD1 (great) steel, nice little one too !
I'll keep the Ambitious in my car as a backup knife, it'll probably sleep there a few years I guess ;-)
Cheers,

Wow maybe they wont care as much for foreign buyers? like many others you suggest the Dragonfly 2 i will order this when i find a good deal and probably also the Techno :) Also the new Mantra I looks amazing and i like flippers, just trying to figure out if that is legal in Sweden so i don't jeopardise my gun license.

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby dcfis » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:04 pm

Sorry to hear the overseas guys troubles. I always heard of them to be a good seller.

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby kjd2121 » Fri Feb 12, 2016 6:18 pm

Sorry about your issue.

The Techno is an absolutely awesome knike in materials and craftsmanship. The blade stock is thick so it is not really a slicer, but a tough little knife.

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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby palonej » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:08 am

Lusitania wrote:Hi there !
Yes, I had exactly the same experience with this seller a few weeks ago in December and I asked myself the same question, my Ambitious came without any paper in an odd box (almost destroyed with unusual marks).
I live in France and the package arrived unopened, so it means that the seller send it as is (no mishandled custom verification).
It's not a big deal, just a few dollars but I won't buy from eCop! in the future, on eBay for Europe I advise Whitemountainknives and Outfittercountry, these are serious and trusted sellers who ask reasonable shipping costs.
Besides, I wasn't impressed by the Ambitious, ok it's a very cheap knife but I don't like the overall construction neither the 8cr13mov steel, it's a bulky and quite heavy knife for its size. I agree with many here, the Dragonfly 2 especially in zdp-189 steel (which I have on my Ladybug BRG, hell I love that knife) is a way better choice for edc : it's smaller and lighter in the pocket with the same blade length. In between I carry a brand new Chicago with the BD1 (great) steel, nice little one too !
I'll keep the Ambitious in my car as a backup knife, it'll probably sleep there a few years I guess ;-)
Cheers,
If you do have to order knives on eBay.....Lusitania hit the nail on the head with Whitemountanknives.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby The Deacon » Sat Feb 13, 2016 9:46 am

In fairness, Ambitious clones may exist, there may even be one or more people selling them on eBay. However, I seriously doubt that the OP got a fake one from eCop.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby Larry_Mott » Sat Feb 13, 2016 11:51 am

The Deacon wrote:In fairness, Ambitious clones may exist, there may even be one or more people selling them on eBay. However, I seriously doubt that the OP got a fake one from eCop.
I also find it hard to believe that eCop would sell fakes, and why would they send crap to overseas buyers who are relying on the very kind of outlets to get good knives at fair prices. That would be shooting themselves in the foot big time.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby Lusitania » Sun Feb 14, 2016 4:07 pm

@palonej Justin at Whitmountainknives is a great dealer indeed !

I agree with Larry, I doubt that fake Ambitious are on the market. Occasionally the knives and the boxes pass quality control and they miss something, as for the paper work they seem to include. But I don't want to receive this kind of product.
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Re: Did i buy a fake Ambitious? (Texas ebay seller)

Postby can't freehand » Sun Feb 14, 2016 6:29 pm

It's legitimate


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