Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
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Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
I normally keep my Dragonfly 2 clipped to my left rear pocket and the other Spyderco clipped in the right pocket. Sitting and watching the Broncos, I reached for the Dragonfly tonight and found it was almost out of the pocket. Although I had checked the clip yesterday, making certain it was tight, this somehow happened:
I do not recall bumping or snagging the clip on anything but even if I did I would expect that the clip and attachment would have held under reasonable pressure.
I would like to see a more secure attachment for the wire clips. Any thoughts or recommendations?
I do not recall bumping or snagging the clip on anything but even if I did I would expect that the clip and attachment would have held under reasonable pressure.
I would like to see a more secure attachment for the wire clips. Any thoughts or recommendations?
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
Seems sort of impossible unless the clip was bent or the edge of the FRN was damaged. I once wrecked a bicycle pretty bad while carrying a Caly 3 and landed on my hip really hard and it bent the clip sideways about 90 degrees but the clip didn't break or pop out. Of course, that's with CF scales, not FRN so maybe that's why.
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
That would be "not". It is puzzling. Relatively new Dragonfly. Clip is not bent. I checked the tightness yesterday. I haven't caught it n anything or bumped it in my pocket. As the photos show, the FRN is undamaged. Obviously something caused one end to slip out, but I have no idea why but my best guess is that the screw came loose somehow in the last 24 hours.
I removed the clip and have it in my pocket now.
I removed the clip and have it in my pocket now.
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I'd put it back together with some locktite. I've carried a lot of wire clip knives and have never had any issues like this.
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I've never had that happen either. :confused:
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Huh, never seen nor experienced that one! :o
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
It's physically impossible for this to happen if the screw was tight and the clip not deformed.MichaelScott wrote:I normally keep my Dragonfly 2 clipped to my left rear pocket and the other Spyderco clipped in the right pocket. Sitting and watching the Broncos, I reached for the Dragonfly tonight and found it was almost out of the pocket. Although I had checked the clip yesterday, making certain it was tight, this somehow happened:
I do not recall bumping or snagging the clip on anything but even if I did I would expect that the clip and attachment would have held under reasonable pressure.
I would like to see a more secure attachment for the wire clips. Any thoughts or recommendations?
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
Has happened to me with my h1 dragonfly. First I caught it against a stairway railing somehow and completely ripped the clip off but was no damage to the frn. Got home, took the screw out, bent the clip back to shape and put it back in, made sure the clip was nice and tight. Went to use it like a week later and after I used it and went to put it back in my pocket I noticed the clip was about to come off like yours you posted. Who, what, when, where, why, how, I have no idea. But it's one reason why I don't care much for wire clips.
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Man, that is not cool. I like wire clips but they do have their downsides. I dropped a Ti squeak in a clean toilet one time bc of the wire clip not holding securely enough for the weight of the knife. What if you put a tiny amount of loctite on the screw and in the grooves the clip rests in?
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
Hmm. That is indeed strange. Never had that happen to me, but I did have the wire clip shift on my D'fly2 once after I sat down on it by accident. :rolleyes:
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I also find that pretty strange, the bolt has to be loose for that to happen if there is no damage to the frn
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
Spydergirl88 wrote:Man, that is not cool. I like wire clips but they do have their downsides. I dropped a Ti squeak in a clean toilet one time bc of the wire clip not holding securely enough for the weight of the knife. What if you put a tiny amount of loctite on the screw and in the grooves the clip rests in?
I'd imagine that has a bit more to do with the smooth metal handles lacking traction. I have similar issues with some of my RIL's, even with regular hourglass clips.
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Shift or shatter? Hehe jkSpyderNut wrote:Hmm. That is indeed strange. Never had that happen to me, but I did have the wire clip shift on my D'fly2 once after I sat down on it by accident. :rolleyes:
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
Good point SpeedHoles. Didn't think about that. I also wonder if the rounded wire clip surface also adds to the slickness vs the flat surface area of the PM2 style clipSpeedHoles wrote:Spydergirl88 wrote:Man, that is not cool. I like wire clips but they do have their downsides. I dropped a Ti squeak in a clean toilet one time bc of the wire clip not holding securely enough for the weight of the knife. What if you put a tiny amount of loctite on the screw and in the grooves the clip rests in?
I'd imagine that has a bit more to do with the smooth metal handles lacking traction. I have similar issues with some of my RIL's, even with regular hourglass clips.
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
I think this happened because the clip slid up and out of the slot. If the bend is round enough on the wire it can squeeze out. I accidentally bent a wire clip out once and bent it back and as a result the bend was't exactly right on the clip and it was a little more rounded than the sort of 90 degrees they come at. It slid out easily so I swapped the clip and it is fine now. I don't think that the top bend in the clip has to be off by much to allow this on some models. I also bent a wire clip once and it snapped when I tried to bend it back. I don't care for wire clips myself but have plenty of them.
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Lol. And this is why I have started to cut back on sweets.Spydergirl88 wrote:Shift or shatter? Hehe jkSpyderNut wrote:Hmm. That is indeed strange. Never had that happen to me, but I did have the wire clip shift on my D'fly2 once after I sat down on it by accident. :rolleyes:
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Re: Why I don't like Spyderco wire clip connection
I have a few Spydercos with wire clips. I don't hate them, but they are definitely not my favorite. They are easier to snag and bend and harder to bend back into their original shape. I would be much happier with the hourglass clip on all my folders.
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I love the wire clips. I've bent, broke, and rolled/folded them to the side before (both wires rotating in the mount), but they've never come out. I find them less prone to breaking than many other clips.
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With the exception of knives that seem to work with a minimalist clip like the Dragonfly, chaparral and Kiwi4 I would prefer a hourglass clip on my folders. I wish the Sages had four way hourglass clips myself.
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If you remove the clip, the DF2 makes a _fantastic_ key chain knife. I like it a lot more than the ladybug I used to have on there.