AEB-L -steel, my new favorite
AEB-L -steel, my new favorite
I just used a fixed blade knife in AEB-L steel and I need to make a statement: it's my all time favorite stainless steel.I allready had great experience with 13C26 Sandvick in my Kershaw Leeks and this new experience just clarified things for me.For the time being, AEB-L(13C26) and CPM-Cruwear(looking forward for 52100) are my favorite steels on both sides of the spectrum.I only wish Spyderco release a few folders in this awesome steel.I hope I'm not the only one.
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Sal said that they are going to look at using Sandvik on some of the China models.
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AEB-L is Bohler-Udderholm, which Spyderco already uses in the Italian product and a few Golden made knives.
AEB-L UKPK anyone?
AEB-L UKPK anyone?
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I have a nice B&T in AEB-L made by Joshua Gallardo *joshrg" on blade forum. He does beautiful work. The knife is razor sharp and he makes beautiful handles. Haven't used it much so I can't really comment on the steel. http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showt ... n-Micarta-(EDC" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;)***?highlight=bird+trout
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I have been really happy with my knives in 8cr13mov and aeb-l/13c26. While I have a lot of mid to higher end knives, especially from Spyderco, I am also all for models that provide a lot of bang for the buck and keep costs down.
In general, I've gotten to the point were most steels are "easy" for me to touch up, but if that is the case then I can say steels like aeb-l are "super easy" and I can achieve a higher sharpness with less effort.
This custom by KWB in aeb-l is my favorite small fixed blade, although the steel is just one of many factors in that:
That Gallardo looks pretty sweet as well.
In general, I've gotten to the point were most steels are "easy" for me to touch up, but if that is the case then I can say steels like aeb-l are "super easy" and I can achieve a higher sharpness with less effort.
This custom by KWB in aeb-l is my favorite small fixed blade, although the steel is just one of many factors in that:
That Gallardo looks pretty sweet as well.
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I'm an obnoxiously vocal fan of stainless, Swedish strip steels.elena86 wrote:I hope I'm not the only one.
Thanks. Very great news even though the 8Cr13MoV seems really nice.Donut wrote:Sal said that they are going to look at using Sandvik on some of the China models.
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I have quite a few blades in AEB-L. I think it's a fantastic steel that if hardened properly gets a good combination of edge retention and toughness plus takes a fantastic edge! The problem is that in production runs they may be underhardened which would limit edge retention.
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8cr13mov is actually pretty close to 13c26, trades some edge stability for a slightly higher carbide content. For the price, Spyderco's 8cr13mov is unbeatable, far, far superior to Kershaw's Sandvik, which they severely under-harden.elena86 wrote:I just used a fixed blade knife in AEB-L steel and I need to make a statement: it's my all time favorite stainless steel.I allready had great experience with 13C26 Sandvick in my Kershaw Leeks and this new experience just clarified things for me.For the time being, AEB-L(13C26) and CPM-Cruwear(looking forward for 52100) are my favorite steels on both sides of the spectrum.I only wish Spyderco release a few folders in this awesome steel.I hope I'm not the only one.
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No sir.It's not pretty close and has nothing to do with the fact that Kershaw used to run their 13C26 quite low.The thread was about AEB-L in a custom knife anyway.The structure of AEB-L does not contain chromium carbides which is good, cutting edge has a very good stability, easy to maintain, high level of atainable sharpness and decent edge retention.I was refering to Kershaw Leek just because it's the only folder in 13C26 I ever used.In fact AEB-L is developed by Uddeholm and than copied by Sandvick under the name of 13C26.can't freehand wrote:8cr13mov is actually pretty close to 13c26, trades some edge stability for a slightly higher carbide content. For the price, Spyderco's 8cr13mov is unbeatable, far, far superior to Kershaw's Sandvik, which they severely under-harden.elena86 wrote:I just used a fixed blade knife in AEB-L steel and I need to make a statement: it's my all time favorite stainless steel.I allready had great experience with 13C26 Sandvick in my Kershaw Leeks and this new experience just clarified things for me.For the time being, AEB-L(13C26) and CPM-Cruwear(looking forward for 52100) are my favorite steels on both sides of the spectrum.I only wish Spyderco release a few folders in this awesome steel.I hope I'm not the only one.
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About carbides, yes, that's what I said, and its a slight difference bc the carbon difference is about .2.elena86 wrote:he thread was about AEB-L in a custom knife anyway.The structure of AEB-L does not contain chromium carbides which is good, cutting edge has a very good stability, easy to maintain, high level of atainable sharpness and decent edge retention.I was refering to Kershaw Leek just because it's the only folder in 13C26 I ever used.In fact AEB-L is developed by Uddeholm and than copied by Sandvick under the name of 13C26.
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AEB-L/14C28N at good HRC of 62 and 61 respectfully with cryo treatment is really something else. Shame not more people really experience these steels with such heat treatments.
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I wonder where the information came from that AEB-L has no chromium carbides? No source I've seen makes that claim, and many sources tout its fine distribution of small chromium carbides.
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Maybe it was meaning no extra-huge, chromium carbides like in 440C?
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It would be easily possible to harden it in such a manner, you likely would not like it however because of the difficulties with very high levels of retained austenite and loss of hardness/strength/toughness.me2 wrote:I wonder where the information came from that AEB-L has no chromium carbides?
AEB-L is an interesting steel as it is basically a stainless version of steels like 52100.
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[quote="Zenith"]AEB-L/14C28N at good HRC of 62 and 61 respectfully with cryo treatment is really something else. Shame not more people really experience these steels with such heat treatments.[/quote
Exactly
Exactly