Nirvan lock

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Nirvan lock

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Does anyone no if there will be a stainless piece or will the lockface be carbidized?if not I forsee sticky lock and lockrock on the nirvana.if it does not have eather one it just came off my list.been threw this integral crappy lock with lionsteel tispine b4.why no 39 cent carbadizing makes no sence .to put on after is no good eather needs to be worked into original specs or to thick or not thick enough.as I said been threw it if you dont think that the ti on ti wont wear fast especially in the solid body you just wait.once lockrock starts its over.one piece of ti cant replace a lockbar or scale.400$ paperweight.
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Spyderco carburizes the locks. It's typically considered superior to carbidizing from what I've read. I have never had issues with extensive lock wear on any Spyderco framelocks.
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I'm not worried.
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I think it'll be fine, Spyderco knows what they're doing, it's a high end offering, I don't think they'd skimp on the lock face.
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I havent seen anything saying it has been carbadized.what other knives do they carbadize
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I will definitely buy one if so .I no spyder o knows what its doing dubya but they do make mistakes.I have bought a couple.
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I'm just saying I'd be shocked if they didn't treat the lock face somehow on a $400+ knife
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I hope they do but I dont find any info .I have wanted this knife foe awile so im hopping it does.I wont drop 400$ without knowing
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If everything is designed and executed properly I don't see an issue. Sebenzas have been built this way forever.
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I have a K2 that I got September of 2014 for my birthday that I have carried and used extensively for the past year. No lock movement, no lock stick, and no lock rock. Its probably the best execution of the framelock that I have ever owned. Or at least as good as the CRK made framelocks. Not sure if the lock face was carburized or carbidized but it was treated in some way. I say you should have no worries. Steel inserts defeat one of the main purposes of the titanium anyway, that is the slight gauling under load helps the lock to not slip like steel on steel lock ups can sometimes have.
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I have had zero issues with my Southard, and that thing has been flipped a zillion times.
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endgame wrote:I havent seen anything saying it has been carbadized.what other knives do they carbadize
Spyderco doesn't have any carbidized lock faces, but they do carborize quite a few of their framelocks. The Sage 2 ( I believe), Southard, Techno, and Slysz Bowie all have carborized lock faces.
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Ok if I see they do on the nirvana I will buy it
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I find it interesting the design features that people take an interest in, when there are dozens if not hundreds of other features, that no one ever talks about, which affect the performance of the system as much if not more.
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tvenuto wrote:I find it interesting the design features that people take an interest in, when there are dozens if not hundreds of other features, that no one ever talks about, which affect the performance of the system as much if not more.
This is actually very important as bare Ti will wear away making for a potential expensive paperweight. Spyderco wouldn't leave it bare, though.
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Does anyone no for sure
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We have no plans at this time for a steel interface. We also do not carburize or carbidize.

What we do have though is lots of experience, data from extensive testing and several thousand knives (some with a steel interface and some without). We also have our practice of CQI (Constant Quality Improvement). Just as we do with every model (new and old), we'll be watching and listening to all of you.

I hope this helps.

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Thanks for the clarification Kristi. I am surprised the face isn't treated but that kind of makes me wonder if all the talk of the lock face being way better with treatment or a steel insert isn't more Internet hype than anything.
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$400 paperweight? That doesn't even make sense. It has a warranty. Send it in. A product is only as good as the company who backs it. They will make it right.

I have heard that some people like the Ti lock's "stick" because it adds a little more security.
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No sticky lock sux.this is disappointing.I guess I just saved 400$.this is a shame I wont beat this to the ground
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