Just picked up a copy of Feb 2003 Blade magazine which has an article naming an "expert" panels picks for the top 10 production tacticals of the decade. Spyderco has 3 of the top 10 - Military #2, Endura #4 and Police #6
Congrats Sal and Spyderco!
David
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Blade - Top 10 Tacticals
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The rationale for the Buck 110 is that it "has been used as a tactical folder by scores of servicemen and law enforcement personnel since it's inception in 1963" It also seems to get the nostalgia vote with the statement that "It was the original tactical folder"
I have to admit, the Buck 110 was the first "good" knife I purchased. It's 35 years old and I still have it. During years of working as a forester, I carried it and used for for everything from cleaning fish and game, opening cans and bottles and whittling to removing screws in an emergency <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>. Never had to used it for self defense, other than an irate partridge, but I'm sure it could have handled it. It's been replaced by Spyderco products nowadays but I'm sure it could still do the job if needed.
I was interested to see the CRKT Carson M16 in the list. I think most of us would have agreed that CRKT products have been good designs and good value, but not top of the line blade steels. I guess, the upgrade from AUS-6A to AUS-8, the use of aluminum and G-10 in handles (and a good marketing program) have had the desired effect.
David
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I have to admit, the Buck 110 was the first "good" knife I purchased. It's 35 years old and I still have it. During years of working as a forester, I carried it and used for for everything from cleaning fish and game, opening cans and bottles and whittling to removing screws in an emergency <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>. Never had to used it for self defense, other than an irate partridge, but I'm sure it could have handled it. It's been replaced by Spyderco products nowadays but I'm sure it could still do the job if needed.
I was interested to see the CRKT Carson M16 in the list. I think most of us would have agreed that CRKT products have been good designs and good value, but not top of the line blade steels. I guess, the upgrade from AUS-6A to AUS-8, the use of aluminum and G-10 in handles (and a good marketing program) have had the desired effect.
David
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WOW!!!
LOOK AT THAT LIST - AND #1 EMERSON MUST BE SOMETHING THERE. SPYDERCO NEEDS TO TRY FOR THAT TOP SPOT EVEN THOUGH THEY OWN MOST OF THE LIST. AND LOOK AT GOOD OLD #10 BUCK. BEEN AROUND FOREVER, GOOD KNIFE USE TO BE MADE DOWN BY ME. MADE THE BEST BAYONET THE BUCK M-9. I WONDER HOW THEY REALLY JUDGE THESE KNIVES????
VERY INTERESTING INDEED.....
KEN
LOOK AT THAT LIST - AND #1 EMERSON MUST BE SOMETHING THERE. SPYDERCO NEEDS TO TRY FOR THAT TOP SPOT EVEN THOUGH THEY OWN MOST OF THE LIST. AND LOOK AT GOOD OLD #10 BUCK. BEEN AROUND FOREVER, GOOD KNIFE USE TO BE MADE DOWN BY ME. MADE THE BEST BAYONET THE BUCK M-9. I WONDER HOW THEY REALLY JUDGE THESE KNIVES????
VERY INTERESTING INDEED.....
KEN
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very interesting! I read Feb '03s issue of Knives Illustrated and found out that the magazine had awarded Spyderco with knife of the year for the "ATR" and sharperner of the year for the 204 sharpmaker.. <img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0><img src="spyder.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Sam
have scars will travel..
Sam
have scars will travel..
Hey all, I hope everyone had a good weekend.
I was shocked and surprised at that list.
The Buck 110? I can't imagine it. Ok, it was one of the firsts... But just cause it's an original knife doesn't make it tactical. Seems to me that "tactical" refers to new age and "cutting edge" aspects of a knife. But even so, the buck110 has smooth wood handles (giving very little to grip) and two handed opening mechanism. The lock is good though, so i hear. I'm surprised they didn't choose it's brother, the Buck strider! That seems to fill the definition of tactical.
I'm glad to see some spydies on the list. I'm surprised the delica didn't make it. it seems like a very popular knife, and as I understand it, it was sort of designed for that type of use? I mean... theres a trainer available for it...
It was an interesting article.
I hope everyone is well.
I was shocked and surprised at that list.
The Buck 110? I can't imagine it. Ok, it was one of the firsts... But just cause it's an original knife doesn't make it tactical. Seems to me that "tactical" refers to new age and "cutting edge" aspects of a knife. But even so, the buck110 has smooth wood handles (giving very little to grip) and two handed opening mechanism. The lock is good though, so i hear. I'm surprised they didn't choose it's brother, the Buck strider! That seems to fill the definition of tactical.
I'm glad to see some spydies on the list. I'm surprised the delica didn't make it. it seems like a very popular knife, and as I understand it, it was sort of designed for that type of use? I mean... theres a trainer available for it...
It was an interesting article.
I hope everyone is well.
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TACTICAL
Don't read to much in the meaning/definition of this word.
Basically means>a plan of action-or-a weapon.
They must have a certain criteria for judgeing these knives.
A knife is basically a tool or weapon used for cutting.
Why the Buck? Like someone already said they have been around forever and used by many.
A basic good quality knife.
IMO-KEN
Don't read to much in the meaning/definition of this word.
Basically means>a plan of action-or-a weapon.
They must have a certain criteria for judgeing these knives.
A knife is basically a tool or weapon used for cutting.
Why the Buck? Like someone already said they have been around forever and used by many.
A basic good quality knife.
IMO-KEN
Who were the people on the "Expert" panel?
Some comments:
I'm surprised with the absence of the BM 710, CS Gunsite, MT LCC, Rekat SIFU and Spyderco Civilian from the list. Why the BM CQC-7? (I would have opted for the Emerson waved version). I guess it might have something to do with the selection criteria used in the voting. By the way, was this election conducted in Florida? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Some comments:
I'm surprised with the absence of the BM 710, CS Gunsite, MT LCC, Rekat SIFU and Spyderco Civilian from the list. Why the BM CQC-7? (I would have opted for the Emerson waved version). I guess it might have something to do with the selection criteria used in the voting. By the way, was this election conducted in Florida? <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
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toothed
The "expert" panel names are spread throught the article. They were described as " knife users, knife writers, knife retailers,and former military and law enforcement personnel"
Some of the names to whom comments are attributed are: Dexter Ewing, Steve Fishman, Brian Heugal, Buck Buchanan, David Steele. I'm not going through the explanation of who they all are - I'll leave something to surprize you when you buy the magazine <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Someone else out there must buy Blade! And after all, it's only their opinion and we all have our own too (like the Buck 110 <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> )
David
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The "expert" panel names are spread throught the article. They were described as " knife users, knife writers, knife retailers,and former military and law enforcement personnel"
Some of the names to whom comments are attributed are: Dexter Ewing, Steve Fishman, Brian Heugal, Buck Buchanan, David Steele. I'm not going through the explanation of who they all are - I'll leave something to surprize you when you buy the magazine <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> Someone else out there must buy Blade! And after all, it's only their opinion and we all have our own too (like the Buck 110 <img src="wink.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0> )
David
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Toothed> A tactical knife usually does not refer (solely) to the knife being ideal for combat. That's why the Civilian didn't make it. A good tactical knife can see hard use in the field and is expected to be a working blade.
Of course it should also be easily applicable as a weapon, but that is not its primary function.
<a href=http://www.spyderco.com/forum/Topic.asp ... Frequently Used Terms</a>
Praise not the day ere evening has come,
a sword before it is tried,
ice before it has been crossed,
and beer until it is drunk.
Of course it should also be easily applicable as a weapon, but that is not its primary function.
<a href=http://www.spyderco.com/forum/Topic.asp ... Frequently Used Terms</a>
Praise not the day ere evening has come,
a sword before it is tried,
ice before it has been crossed,
and beer until it is drunk.
4 s ter, the reason I asked who were on the so-called expert panel is related to a previous thread on the Bladeforums Spyderco forum. In that thread, I wondered why Spyderco did not win Blade Show awards. What I learned was that, imo, the makeup of the judges and the judging procedures left much to be desired. (Some of those voting may not have seen all of the knives entered and may not have even handled most of the knives).
As a final consumer who is unable to attend knife shows, I rely quite heavily on reports/awards coming out of these shows in making knife purchasing decisions. To my dismay, I find that I cannot place much weight on what the Blade Show say are their "winners."
I have not read the cited recent article and, as such, do not consider my comments above (about the Blade Show) relevant to the selection of the Top 10 Tacticals listed. In this instance, it appears we have some notable panelists involved with the outcome.
Edited by - toothed on 12/10/2002 1:55:33 PM
As a final consumer who is unable to attend knife shows, I rely quite heavily on reports/awards coming out of these shows in making knife purchasing decisions. To my dismay, I find that I cannot place much weight on what the Blade Show say are their "winners."
I have not read the cited recent article and, as such, do not consider my comments above (about the Blade Show) relevant to the selection of the Top 10 Tacticals listed. In this instance, it appears we have some notable panelists involved with the outcome.
Edited by - toothed on 12/10/2002 1:55:33 PM
4 s ter
This is a good post you did!!
mac_heath
I like your opinion, and when I read your posts I see you have given it some thought.
BUT
I have to disagree with you.
As I also have given this some thought.
But when you use the word "TACTICAL" when refering to a knife than it "PRIMARY" function is that of a weapon.
Furthmore when you put a lable on it> POLICE/MILITARY than it takes on te roll of being tactical.
The topic was brought up once - is a knife a tool or a weapon? It can be both. Almost anything can be a weapon if it's intent is to do bodily harm.
And I love to disagree!!!!!
ken or i should say IMO
This is a good post you did!!
mac_heath
I like your opinion, and when I read your posts I see you have given it some thought.
BUT
I have to disagree with you.
As I also have given this some thought.
But when you use the word "TACTICAL" when refering to a knife than it "PRIMARY" function is that of a weapon.
Furthmore when you put a lable on it> POLICE/MILITARY than it takes on te roll of being tactical.
The topic was brought up once - is a knife a tool or a weapon? It can be both. Almost anything can be a weapon if it's intent is to do bodily harm.
And I love to disagree!!!!!
ken or i should say IMO