The Roadie, thoughts and pics from the UK...
The Roadie, thoughts and pics from the UK...
Hello all,
I'm pretty content with my slipjoint EDC rotation these days, but I was just too intrigued by this little guy not to take a look. As this was designed along pretty tight lines for the proposed TSA regulations back in 2013 it's obviously geared for a very specific niche so I wasn't expecting it to take over EDC duty and knock the Urban out of my pocket, but I did really like the look of it's shape.
In fact the design struck me as being everything I wished the Pingo had been (ignoring the size of course)! Don't get me wrong, I love my Pingo and carry it a lot, but I do wish it had more classic Spyderco slipit ergos (e.g handle shape and a finger choil). The Roadie looked super sheeple friendly (where the Pingo is strong) but with what looked like a grip position that would have me feeling more at home (slipping my finger into a Spyderco choil feels like putting on a favourite old pair of slippers :)) There was also the potential for it to be a good non-locking alternative to fill the shoes of a Ladybug / Manbug, for those of us living in countries limiting the use of lockers. Well that's what peaked my interest anyway so here we are...
Specs from Spyderco:
length overall - 5.08" (129 mm)
blade length - 2.09" (53 mm)
blade thickness - 0.112" (2.9 mm)
cutting edge - 1.72" (44 mm)
length closed - 2.99" (76 mm)
blade steel - N690Co
handle material - FRN
weight - 1 oz (28 g)
As you can see from the specs this thing is tiny and with the FRN scales is super light weight. It really does just disappear into the pocket and is certainly very convenient to carry. Fits in the palm of your hand you might say!
In fact size and shape is probably going to be the main focus of what I have to say here and well, a picture is worth a thousand words so here is the Roadie next to two of it's Maniago made slipit siblings, the Pingo above and the Squeak below...
Open:
And closed:
It makes these two small slipits look positively chunky! And here is what I kept thinking every time I picked the Roadie up...what if the Roadie was as tall as the Pingo...what a fantastic two-hand-opening slipit option that would make! A big brother of the Roadie would take over duties from my Pingo in a heartbeat. As she stands the Roadie is much more dainty in use than the Squeak or the Pingo and I think a better comparison would be with the Ladybug...
Ladybug and Roadie open:
Ladybug and Roadie closed:
Now this made me want a choiled Ladybug even more! As much as I wanted to see it I never really knew if a choil on a knife this small would still feel functional...well it really really does! I know, I know, the Ladybug is more of a mini Delica but it still doesn't stop me wanting something along the lines of a Ladybug sized Caly or Para! :D
Here are some in-hand grip comparisons, clockwise from top left Roadie, Squeak, Ladybug & Pingo:
Despite its narrow frame and diminutive stature, the Roadie melts into the hand in exactly the way you'd expect from anything with Sal's makers mark on the blade. Again, I understand that the original intention was to fit to TSA specifications but this really would be a fantastic EDC two-handed option if the handle and blade were as deep/tall as the Pingo.
Just as the Ladybug punches well above it's weight in cutting, slicing and chopping the Roadie does too with similar results, albeit it lacks the sharp point of the Ladybug. That's the price you pay for the sheeple friendly look though, and to be honest when I carry a Pingo instead of my UKPK / Urban / Squeak, I miss the point far less than I originally thought I would. It's amazing how much you can get done with the tip of that sheepsfoot currve! The full flat grind of the Roadie really helps it tackle its lack of blade depth, and despite being quite thick at the spine, it really tapers nicely down to a good fine edge. Here are some comparative shots of the blade shapes up close...
Pingo, Roadie & Squeak:
Ladybug and Roadie:
The Roadie's blade is N690Co, just like its other slipit buddies from Maniago. I've got nothing but good stuff to say about this steel and in my use I've found it performs as well as (and I actually often think better than) the fantastic S30V & VG10 we've seen on UKPKs and Urbans over the years. It's got great edge retention, is a doddle to sharpen and gets super slicey.
The double dent is the best solution for two-hand opening I've seen on a Spyderco yet. Not only does it work really well (much smoother than a nail-nick) but it feels very 'Spyderco' and lets you keep a much more classic handle that covers most of the blade when closed. Again, it's the direction in which I wish the Pingo would have gone.
The handle is pinned construction but the pivot is screwed...
The fit and finish out of Maniago on this is excellent, the blade is well centred and the jimping spot on. The scales are particularly nice and in this case they are smooth as opposed to the usual textured FRN we've seen on other slipits...
The slip joint is particularly strong and there are no worries of accidentally closing this one! It has a very smooth folding action and the half-stop on the way back into the handle is also nice and secure...
There is no pocket clip as the Roadie is intended for traditional pocket carry, but there is a lanyard hole of a similar size to the Ladybug, just right for a single pass of 550...
All in all it's a great little knife that fits the strict criteria it was designed for very well, whilst never losing that magic something that makes it a Spyderco. I've already said several times above that I think some sort of a Pingo sized Roadie would make a fanastic two-handed EDC in its own right, but there is one little niggle that I would want to change. Now this may just be my ignorance as I have never had the difficult task of engineering a knife before, but I'd like to see the handle scales nestle the tip of the blade a bit deeper than they do here...
This is a shot of the tip of the blade when the Roadie is in the fully closed position:
...the tip is a millimetre or so from being exposed. Now I know that this is a small knife and is unlikely to see heavy use and extreme amounts of sharpening, but still, it wouldn't take too much sharpening to leave the tip exposed...not what you want in a folder carried loose in the pocket. Just the slightest extension of the FRN scales here would solve this problem without negatively effecting the ergos at all. A small tweak but one that would dramatically improve the Roadie's usability for me.
Well I think I've remembered everything I wanted to mention. Thankfully we can still carry one-handed openers here in the UK so I won't be hanging up my Urbans and UKPKs any time soon, but if we were ever limited to two-handed openers after I'd grabbed a nice pointy Spy-DK the first thing on my wish list would be a sheeple friendly Pingo-proportioned Roadie!
I hope someone finds my photos and ramblings useful anyway,
Cheers for now!
Uke.
I'm pretty content with my slipjoint EDC rotation these days, but I was just too intrigued by this little guy not to take a look. As this was designed along pretty tight lines for the proposed TSA regulations back in 2013 it's obviously geared for a very specific niche so I wasn't expecting it to take over EDC duty and knock the Urban out of my pocket, but I did really like the look of it's shape.
In fact the design struck me as being everything I wished the Pingo had been (ignoring the size of course)! Don't get me wrong, I love my Pingo and carry it a lot, but I do wish it had more classic Spyderco slipit ergos (e.g handle shape and a finger choil). The Roadie looked super sheeple friendly (where the Pingo is strong) but with what looked like a grip position that would have me feeling more at home (slipping my finger into a Spyderco choil feels like putting on a favourite old pair of slippers :)) There was also the potential for it to be a good non-locking alternative to fill the shoes of a Ladybug / Manbug, for those of us living in countries limiting the use of lockers. Well that's what peaked my interest anyway so here we are...
Specs from Spyderco:
length overall - 5.08" (129 mm)
blade length - 2.09" (53 mm)
blade thickness - 0.112" (2.9 mm)
cutting edge - 1.72" (44 mm)
length closed - 2.99" (76 mm)
blade steel - N690Co
handle material - FRN
weight - 1 oz (28 g)
As you can see from the specs this thing is tiny and with the FRN scales is super light weight. It really does just disappear into the pocket and is certainly very convenient to carry. Fits in the palm of your hand you might say!
In fact size and shape is probably going to be the main focus of what I have to say here and well, a picture is worth a thousand words so here is the Roadie next to two of it's Maniago made slipit siblings, the Pingo above and the Squeak below...
Open:
And closed:
It makes these two small slipits look positively chunky! And here is what I kept thinking every time I picked the Roadie up...what if the Roadie was as tall as the Pingo...what a fantastic two-hand-opening slipit option that would make! A big brother of the Roadie would take over duties from my Pingo in a heartbeat. As she stands the Roadie is much more dainty in use than the Squeak or the Pingo and I think a better comparison would be with the Ladybug...
Ladybug and Roadie open:
Ladybug and Roadie closed:
Now this made me want a choiled Ladybug even more! As much as I wanted to see it I never really knew if a choil on a knife this small would still feel functional...well it really really does! I know, I know, the Ladybug is more of a mini Delica but it still doesn't stop me wanting something along the lines of a Ladybug sized Caly or Para! :D
Here are some in-hand grip comparisons, clockwise from top left Roadie, Squeak, Ladybug & Pingo:
Despite its narrow frame and diminutive stature, the Roadie melts into the hand in exactly the way you'd expect from anything with Sal's makers mark on the blade. Again, I understand that the original intention was to fit to TSA specifications but this really would be a fantastic EDC two-handed option if the handle and blade were as deep/tall as the Pingo.
Just as the Ladybug punches well above it's weight in cutting, slicing and chopping the Roadie does too with similar results, albeit it lacks the sharp point of the Ladybug. That's the price you pay for the sheeple friendly look though, and to be honest when I carry a Pingo instead of my UKPK / Urban / Squeak, I miss the point far less than I originally thought I would. It's amazing how much you can get done with the tip of that sheepsfoot currve! The full flat grind of the Roadie really helps it tackle its lack of blade depth, and despite being quite thick at the spine, it really tapers nicely down to a good fine edge. Here are some comparative shots of the blade shapes up close...
Pingo, Roadie & Squeak:
Ladybug and Roadie:
The Roadie's blade is N690Co, just like its other slipit buddies from Maniago. I've got nothing but good stuff to say about this steel and in my use I've found it performs as well as (and I actually often think better than) the fantastic S30V & VG10 we've seen on UKPKs and Urbans over the years. It's got great edge retention, is a doddle to sharpen and gets super slicey.
The double dent is the best solution for two-hand opening I've seen on a Spyderco yet. Not only does it work really well (much smoother than a nail-nick) but it feels very 'Spyderco' and lets you keep a much more classic handle that covers most of the blade when closed. Again, it's the direction in which I wish the Pingo would have gone.
The handle is pinned construction but the pivot is screwed...
The fit and finish out of Maniago on this is excellent, the blade is well centred and the jimping spot on. The scales are particularly nice and in this case they are smooth as opposed to the usual textured FRN we've seen on other slipits...
The slip joint is particularly strong and there are no worries of accidentally closing this one! It has a very smooth folding action and the half-stop on the way back into the handle is also nice and secure...
There is no pocket clip as the Roadie is intended for traditional pocket carry, but there is a lanyard hole of a similar size to the Ladybug, just right for a single pass of 550...
All in all it's a great little knife that fits the strict criteria it was designed for very well, whilst never losing that magic something that makes it a Spyderco. I've already said several times above that I think some sort of a Pingo sized Roadie would make a fanastic two-handed EDC in its own right, but there is one little niggle that I would want to change. Now this may just be my ignorance as I have never had the difficult task of engineering a knife before, but I'd like to see the handle scales nestle the tip of the blade a bit deeper than they do here...
This is a shot of the tip of the blade when the Roadie is in the fully closed position:
...the tip is a millimetre or so from being exposed. Now I know that this is a small knife and is unlikely to see heavy use and extreme amounts of sharpening, but still, it wouldn't take too much sharpening to leave the tip exposed...not what you want in a folder carried loose in the pocket. Just the slightest extension of the FRN scales here would solve this problem without negatively effecting the ergos at all. A small tweak but one that would dramatically improve the Roadie's usability for me.
Well I think I've remembered everything I wanted to mention. Thankfully we can still carry one-handed openers here in the UK so I won't be hanging up my Urbans and UKPKs any time soon, but if we were ever limited to two-handed openers after I'd grabbed a nice pointy Spy-DK the first thing on my wish list would be a sheeple friendly Pingo-proportioned Roadie!
I hope someone finds my photos and ramblings useful anyway,
Cheers for now!
Uke.
Last edited by Uke on Fri Jul 21, 2017 10:46 pm, edited 3 times in total.
Re: The Roadie, thoughts and pics from the UK...
This thing is looking nicer and nicer to me, but I might have to wait for the Titanium/Elmax version, or the Titanium/M390 or Titanium/K390 version. :)
Your pictures make the flat FRN look semi-textured. What would you think about that type of scale material on a Squeak or Pingo?
Your pictures make the flat FRN look semi-textured. What would you think about that type of scale material on a Squeak or Pingo?
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Waiting on a Squeak and Pingo with a Split Spring!
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That's one of the best reviews I've ever seen! Thank you. I'm buying one for sure. :cool: Excellent photography, and the straight above comparison shots don't distort perception at all. Well done. A+
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This isn't a review, this is an application for a job as Spyderco's photographer. Great pics! Now you have me wanting a Roadie.
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Totally awesome thread and pics!!! :D I definitely want one of these little guys now! Cheers, Radioactive :)
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Wow! Thanks for the excellent review. Your pics and info have definitely made me more interested in the Roadie. It's quite a bit smaller than I was originally picturing. Thanks again.
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Excellent review. I have been carrying my Roadie for the last couple days and share many of your observations, especially about the depth of the point when closed.
I does make for a very handy, and fun little knife that is more than adequate for those little day to day chores.
I does make for a very handy, and fun little knife that is more than adequate for those little day to day chores.
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Again- excellent review. Thanks for the great pics. The roadie is bigger than I expected, I'm holding out for the colorful ones that are coming.
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Probably my favourite thread of the year so far. Great job!
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Re: The Roadie, thoughts and pics from the UK...
Your review made me change my mind about getting one. It's now on my list.
Re: The Roadie, thoughts and pics from the UK...
Phenomenal review and thread. How did you keep the perspective so perfect with multiple folders in the shot? Might you be doing other reviews in the future?
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great review. I can second all of that. mine has not left my pocket since I got it...
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A+ on that outlook UKE, great information and comparisons. Beautiful pictures great detail. Love the Roadie my favorite non-pocket clip knife. Got the black waiting on the red one. Great thread my friend.
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Thanks so much :D. This little knife just skyrocketed to the top of my list (and gift list).
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Its a great one to gift imoBlerv wrote:Thanks so much :D. This little knife just skyrocketed to the top of my list (and gift list).
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Nice review, I like the roadie but I doubt I'll pick one up for a while. However, your praise has put me in the market for a slip it!
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Spyderco should send you another one in a different color, because you just sold a bunch with this post!
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Great review...
What kind of bike do you ride? :D
What kind of bike do you ride? :D
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Really great review and pictures. Mine is waiting for me when I return home and I must I'm even more excited now that I read your review.
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Re: The Roadie, thoughts and pics from the UK...
Thanks for the kind comments everyone, it makes it well worth the effort when people are finding the post useful! :)
http://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtop ... 58#p897158" target="_blank
...if you click on my forum name and past posts you should be able to hunt them down if you're interested.
Thanks mate. I just used a wide angle lens and a bit of trial and error for the comparison shots. Yeah, I certainly hope I'll be doing more reviews in the future. Life has a tendency to limits the funds I have available for new purchases :rolleyes: but whenever something jumps out at me and I have the money free I tend to post a review. I've posted a few here in the past that you might have missed like my SB Caly 3 review...ohcyclist wrote:Phenomenal review and thread. How did you keep the perspective so perfect with multiple folders in the shot? Might you be doing other reviews in the future?
http://www.spyderco.com/forumII/viewtop ... 58#p897158" target="_blank
...if you click on my forum name and past posts you should be able to hunt them down if you're interested.