Torx screws on two Milis
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Torx screws on two Milis
Yesterday, on another forum I posted a trade thread with a photo of my two Spyderco Militaries. Someone pointed out that the hardware on the Satin Mili is larger than the DLC version and they questioned the authenticity. I got the knife on the BF exchange from a member with very high feedback and I've never questioned it myself, but I thought I'd add a photo and ask for some opinions before I list it again. It's clearly the older knife so I assume that explains the difference, there are patent #s on the clip. The lanyard tube is bigger on the Satin version and the clip screws are Phillips heads.
Please note when I got it, the tip was broken off so the blade is shorter for a reason. Photo bucket's killing me right now and this is the only picture coming through.
Please note when I got it, the tip was broken off so the blade is shorter for a reason. Photo bucket's killing me right now and this is the only picture coming through.
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
The frame screws fit a larger torx driver, that's really all that sticks out to me. The lockbar is finished correctly and the action is smooth.
The backspacer was replaced with barrel style spacers so I guess the lanyard tube could have been switched but I doubt it.
The backspacer was replaced with barrel style spacers so I guess the lanyard tube could have been switched but I doubt it.
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
I know it's hard to tell from one picture but if the different hardware can be explained that would put me at ease.
Thanks for looking :)
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
Where did you purchase that DLC military ?
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also on the exchange, does that one seem fake to you?
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the same guy was selling a blue zdp stretch, but he was relatively new...
yikes the clips are a little different too... should I be running to return the black one now?
They fooled me!
yikes the clips are a little different too... should I be running to return the black one now?
They fooled me!
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
to my knowledge there's no fake clip on the market with those patent writing. That only means your clip is the real thing.
Now there's a little something about that DLC one that make me unsure, but I can't say what it is. Give us a few more picture of both?
Now there's a little something about that DLC one that make me unsure, but I can't say what it is. Give us a few more picture of both?
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I think you need to take some better pics, it's a bit hard to see. As far as I know Spyderco have only made a ZDP Stretch in British Racing Green unless you mean the Super Blue Stretch which is a gray/blue.
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No stretch copy have been made yet, at least that I know off ( I check daily to add the newest fake to the list so people can avoid buying those model from anywhere but reputable dealer) so I'd guess 99.999% the stretch is real.
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Oh I know the Stretch was real, I wish I would have bought that now :)
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
The first run of zdp stretches were blue.Johnnie1801 wrote:I think you need to take some better pics, it's a bit hard to see. As far as I know Spyderco have only made a ZDP Stretch in British Racing Green unless you mean the Super Blue Stretch which is a gray/blue.
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Well, now paypal's 6 month claim window doesn't seem so bad
Re: Torx screws on two Milis
I traded someone on Bladeforums for a Cruwear Military that they replaced the hardware with larger Torx screws. I kind of favorite over my stock Cruwear Military. I think he said he polished the internals, too, so maybe the warranty is void, but it operates smoother and looks a little nicer with the aftermarket hardware.
He did post notice of all of this in the trade thread.
He did post notice of all of this in the trade thread.
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
The Military has been in production for close to twenty years. During that time just about every piece of it has changed. In addition to the various steels, etchings, and jimping patterns the very thickness of the blades have changed. Additional liners have been added, backspacers and clips have changed and every screw has been changed, some several times. I don't have a lot of Milies, but there's an Allen the I've never bothered to measure, a T-15 Torx, and a T-10 Torx pivot among the few I own. You either trust your source, or you don't.
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Re: Torx screws on two Milis
I'm not as confident as I was to start, but I have no reason to think either source is dishonorable. I don't think I'll contact them quite yet. I might end up sending these to Spyderco to check over.The Deacon wrote: You either trust your source, or you don't.
Thanks everyone for the opinions.
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Should have checked the wiki before typing :pbearfacedkiller wrote:The first run of zdp stretches were blue.Johnnie1801 wrote:I think you need to take some better pics, it's a bit hard to see. As far as I know Spyderco have only made a ZDP Stretch in British Racing Green unless you mean the Super Blue Stretch which is a gray/blue.
@ Buendia - Do you have boxes with your millie's? If there is a date on the box or on the blade tang then it will be easier to compare with real models made at the same time period ie regarding screws etc
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No, unfortunately. I handled them both a lot yesterday and I'm holding one now; and I'm pretty convinced they're real. I think the Satin version is just really old.Johnnie1801 wrote: @ Buendia - Do you have boxes with your millie's? If there is a date on the box or on the blade tang then it will be easier to compare with real models made at the same time period ie regarding screws etc
As I said the owner of the DLC was selling/ offering a fairly uncommon discontinued model so that makes me feel somewhat better, and it looks spot on to me but who knows.
I still can't trade one in good conscience so I might just send both in to be certain.
I'm just mildly embarrassed I started another fake military thread. :o