Kahr Delica, I don't get it

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Kahr Delica, I don't get it

Postby araneae » Thu Jun 12, 2014 8:10 pm

I see the Kahr Arms Delicas popping up at dealers now and I have to say, I don't get it. Basically you get a normal Delica minus a chunk of blade, minus jimping, add stonewash and a different handle color and it runs about 50% more than a stock Delica depending on the dealer. Am I the only one scratching my head? :confused:
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Postby remnar » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:04 pm

I bought mine because I needed an excuse to buy a Kahr pistol. :D

I completely understand that you don't get it and your reasons make perfect sense. I have a lot of Spydies that I don't necessarily need or use, and the Kahr Delica will probably be another one. I bought it because it is unique and interesting, yet it looks like it would make a great utility blade if I choose to use it. I know the price on this one doesn't really make sense if you simply compare its usability to a regular Delica, but I am lucky enough that I can splurge on some of these models that I would probably never even consider if I had to choose just one or two knives for EDC. With all of the knives that I have, I guess I am a collector or an accumulator, or whatever you want to call it. I buy what I like and often times it happens to be something different or quirky. Spyderco has such a huge variety of styles that I'm sure nobody "gets" them all. I think that is one of the things that makes Spyderco great.

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Postby zhyla » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:27 pm

There's a federal law that says a knife branded by a gun manufacturer can only have so much value for the money. So they had to raise the price :) .
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Postby gbelleh » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:29 pm

Just be glad it's Kahr and not HK. :D
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Postby Liquid Cobra » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:35 pm

Its a self defence knife is it not? It is designed with Michael Janichs' martial blade concepts in mind.
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Postby Ned » Thu Jun 12, 2014 9:47 pm

Liquid Cobra wrote:Its a self defence knife is it not? It is designed with Michael Janichs' martial blade concepts in mind.
This...Only I wish it was the Endura and not the Delica. :rolleyes:
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Postby Surfingringo » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:11 pm

You'd come out cheaper just buying a delica and a file. ;) . I have to admit I'm up in the "don't get it" crowd, but whatever, that's why they make chocolate and vanilla.

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Postby noseoil » Thu Jun 12, 2014 10:15 pm

"Just be glad it's Kahr and not HK." The H&K forum has a knife section, believe it or not, but it is only for the H&K knives. While I do enjoy shooting their pistols & weapons in general, their knives never did much for me. Basically, they are re-branded and manufactured by others for them with the logo thrown in for extra "value" if that works for you. I still prefer Spyderco for my knives, with a few others thrown in for good measure, of course. Will be passing on the Kahr Delica, but if it was S110V I might......

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Postby araneae » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:14 am

Liquid Cobra wrote:Its a self defence knife is it not? It is designed with Michael Janichs' martial blade concepts in mind.
I know what it is, I just don't get it especially at that price.
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Postby Liquid Cobra » Fri Jun 13, 2014 12:53 am

It probably costs a bit more to produce. The blade has been changed from FFG to sabre grind with a bead blast finish, thats extra work. They removed the gimping, which should mean they save money (to me anyway) but I've heard Sal say anytime something is changed from standard production it slows things down, and costs more. The clip has a stone wash finish (more cost) and then it is a collaboration which means they have to pay royalties do they not?

Makes sense to me, I can see where the extra money goes. Perhaps Sal or Michael can correct me or add some insight.
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Postby DougC-3 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 1:16 am

I like the tan and maybe even the blue FRN and think the blade shape is interesting and would make a pretty good utility knife, but I have no use for the logo and almost doubled price.
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Postby Evil D » Fri Jun 13, 2014 3:55 am

The Jandura was one thing, this is kinda silly to me. There are reasons it makes sense like blade length laws, but for this much mark up I'll bob the blade myself lol.
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Postby The Deacon » Fri Jun 13, 2014 4:31 am

No idea why the price difference, or at least that big a difference, unless the dealer that I've purchased most of my Spydercos from has made a mistake, since they're selling the Kahr Delicas for the same price as most of their other FRN/VG-10 Delicas. As for the rest, I chalk it up to the same thing I chalk up the rest of the entire tactical knife craze, namely that "there's no accounting for taste".
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Postby jackknifeh » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:13 am

Anybody have a picture of this knife?

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Postby xceptnl » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:29 am

jackknifeh wrote:Anybody have a picture of this knife?
From remnar on the show your latest purchase thread
remnar wrote:Arrived today! I really like the handle color and the finish on all of the metal parts.

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remnar wrote:I recruited my daughter to take the pics because I suck at macro photography. Let me know if you'd like to see any more.
BTW The other blade in the pics is a regular Delica 4.

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Postby Kylems11 » Fri Jun 13, 2014 5:57 am

Maybe if the price was a bit lower i would grab one. And doesnt make much sense to me either why theres no jimping on a knife like that.
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Postby Evil D » Fri Jun 13, 2014 6:39 am

I will say this though, if the Delica came with this style blade in standard length, I'd buy one even though I hate the handle.
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Postby bearfacedkiller » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:20 am

There are many knives I just don't get. This is just one of them. Just different tastes I guess.
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Postby araneae » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:23 am

The blade grind hasn't been changed, the D4 has always been available in saber grind. I would be surprised if bead blasting is more expensive than satin finishing. Who is this a collaboration with? MJ works for Spyderco and its a take on his modified E4. Kahr just has their name on it.
Liquid Cobra wrote:It probably costs a bit more to produce. The blade has been changed from FFG to sabre grind with a bead blast finish, thats extra work. They removed the gimping, which should mean they save money (to me anyway) but I've heard Sal say anytime something is changed from standard production it slows things down, and costs more. The clip has a stone wash finish (more cost) and then it is a collaboration which means they have to pay royalties do they not?

Makes sense to me, I can see where the extra money goes. Perhaps Sal or Michael can correct me or add some insight.
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Postby Blerv » Fri Jun 13, 2014 7:25 am

When a PM2 exclusive is twice the price nobody bats an eye ;) . I would guess volume (or lack of) is impacting msrp.

It's a cool knife. The should have done a 2.9" Yo2 regrind though. A 2.5" wharnie is pretty small and seldom legal when a 2.9/3" one isn't.
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