we can get a sprint E4, per Sal...steel snobs weigh in

[twinboysdad]

the white steel and white FRN does sound really cool. So does anyone here have user experience with SB and White? Or even White steel vs something else? As much as I want to spearhead this effort, I have only SB, ATS 34, and VG10 in my Japanese steel collection, and need to let better educated members weigh in. I will buy whatever you guys agree on and Sal agrees to make. Watching from the stands from this point+ :D

[opusxpn]

My preference would be to do the entire series; Endura, Stretch, Delica, D'Fly, Ladybug, manbug. Common handle color.

sal

Mr. Sal, the FRN color I don't see much around is RED, you have designated that to trainers, I think a deep rich Red or blood red FRN would be nice. The Bug is red that is the Spyderco color.

[Surfingringo]

the white steel and white FRN does sound really cool. So does anyone here have user experience with SB and White? Or even White steel vs something else? As much as I want to spearhead this effort, I have only SB, ATS 34, and VG10 in my Japanese steel collection, and need to let better educated members weigh in. I will buy whatever you guys agree on and Sal agrees to make. Watching from the stands from this point+ :D

I've definitely got mixed feelings on this. My top two choices would be xvc-11 (m4 equivalent) and White steel with white frn. If I could only own one knife, I would choose the xvc-11 for sure. But the reality is I can, and do, own lots of knives. Since I don't really need any of these, I would be more prone to purchase the more interesting/novel offering, which I believe would be the white/white. Like you though, I would like to hear from someone out there who has some experience with shirogami white. I mean, I would like to at least pretend I'm not buying it purely because of the name/handle color. :o

[FCM415]

My top two choices would be xvc-11 (m4 equivalent) and White steel with white frn.

I haven't read the thread in its entirety but these sound really good. Why not both, one now and the other eventually.

[sal]

Hi Steel Drake,

Welcome to our forum.

Looks like we're having a good discussion. Thanx.

sal

[Surfingringo]

Hmm...I'm curious. If this happens, I wonder if there is any chance of the steel going in the caly models too like they did with superblue.

[MacLaren]

I would love to see a Caly 3.5 with one of the listed steel's

[Ned]

Hmm...I'm curious. If this happens, I wonder if there is any chance of the steel going in the caly models too like they did with superblue.

Ohh boy, I hope so. I would love another Caly 3 in a new steel and colored G-10.

[xceptnl]

the white steel and white FRN does sound really cool. So does anyone here have user experience with SB and White? Or even White steel vs something else? As much as I want to spearhead this effort, I have only SB, ATS 34, and VG10 in my Japanese steel collection, and need to let better educated members weigh in. I will buy whatever you guys agree on and Sal agrees to make. Watching from the stands from this point+ :D

I only have experience with Aogami super, but I am sure some of our kitchen cutlery guys here would possibly have experience with both if not all three. Where is Madrookie...... he loves some good kitchen steel!

[Steel_Drake]

Hmm...I'm curious. If this happens, I wonder if there is any chance of the steel going in the caly models too like they did with superblue.

I would definitely order both if they did, particularly if the consensus ends up on Shirogami White #1.

[Tall Dark and Swarfy]

I posted the below in the original thread that spawned this one. I own knives in all 3 steels.

I believe Shirogami 1 is too similar to Aogami Super. A bit easier to sharpen, a bit less edge retention, and a bit more reactive. Even Aogami Super was a ballsy step IMO given the care it requires.

If you're going to keep the Hitachi steel theme I think HAP40 is a must. Can be hardened to Rc 67, finely grained, great edge retention, and not very reactive. In a kitchen environment it seems to patina to a dull gray.

Cheers,

Rick

[Bill1170]

Two thoughts. First, can FRN be done in a solid color with flecks of contrasting material without ruining molds or significantly reducing durability? I was thinking white with mica flakes for a bit of shimmer.

Second, what about doing a small carbide steel like the white, but in fully serrated edges? A serrated sprint is new to me, though it may have been done before. I picture a hard steel with good edge stability and shallow serrations.

[DougC-3]

The khaki FRN of the Kahr Arms Delica would be a fantastic color for this series HERE


Edit: and I wouldn't mind if we threw in an extra Endura and Delica ground like that as well

[shunsui]

Ok, how about an American steel, Japanese made S110V Endura and a Japanese steel, American made XVC-11 (M4) Para-Military2 ?

Diplomatic enough ?

Then again, I could probably live with a XVC-11 Endura and a S110V Para2. :D

[The Mastiff]

Spyderco's sprints are so hot now they will sell as fast or faster than they ship no matter what steel is used except perhaps BD-1 because of Jim's results on rope. It's amazing how some judge steel purely on one form of abrasive wear tests. In any event any newish steel released in the mid- lower end knives ( delica, Endura, dragonfly, etc.) will blow in and out as fast as the packers at the retailers can ship them. It's almost too fast for people who don't have the forewarning and a good relationship with a retailer or two.

I am looking forward to this one. Lots of good ideas being thrown in by the guys here.

Joe

[Steel_Drake]

I posted the below in the original thread that spawned this one. I own knives in all 3 steels.

I believe Shirogami 1 is too similar to Aogami Super. A bit easier to sharpen, a bit less edge retention, and a bit more reactive. Even Aogami Super was a ballsy step IMO given the care it requires.

If you're going to keep the Hitachi steel theme I think HAP40 is a must. Can be hardened to Rc 67, finely grained, great edge retention, and not very reactive. In a kitchen environment it seems to patina to a dull gray.

Cheers,

Rick

Hey, as long as it's a cutlery steel (i.e. high edge stability at thin geometries) I'm good with HAP 40 too.

[sal]

Hi Rick,

Welcome to our forum.

sal

[The Mastiff]

TheHAP M40is the equv. of M3-2 Cobalt. In other words it's a powder form ( very clean) of M2 High carbon ( called M3-2 +CO AISI name) with a bunch of cobalt. Very high speed stuff. We typically don't see cutlery steels with this high a cobalt content but it should be a fine performer in our type uses with extra red hardness properties to spare. Sounds appropriately expensive to purchase in bulk with all those high priced elements ( W,Mo,V,CO) .

[NorthernPanda]

How about G10 (frn is too small for my hands) and D2. That and camouflage it so that is looks like one of my current knifes ... makes it more wife friendly. haha.

[twinboysdad]

That and camouflage it so that is looks like one of my current knifes ... makes it more wife friendly. haha.

If you are a knife lover and didn't LYFAO at that, you are single...