I was thinking the same thing. Something along the lines of the Chap 2 texture? So excited to see a pic.Donut wrote:I imagine the Chaparral doesn't go along with "plain" scales. I wonder if we'll have a fancy texture.
Sal, any update on the bronze Spydie? :D
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Looks like I will be buying my first Chaparral.
*Landon*sal wrote: .... even today, we design a knife from the edge out!
not tempting for me. Brass will not tarnish as fast as copper or bronze. I believe that it is also harder.Mallus wrote:wouldn't it be tempting to run the Bronze Chaparral with CPM M4? :) This way we'd get to follow both the blade and the handle developing character. Those that are very worried about carbon steels rusting, might be equally worried about bronze tarnishing; by combining both, you might entice more customers!
Plain doesn't look any specials for me. Most likely too plain.Donut wrote:I imagine the Chaparral doesn't go along with "plain" scales. I wonder if we'll have a fancy texture.
I googled brass scales and found many pictires of knives with brass bolsters. i used to have one of these. Looks nice. Also couple of pictures of the knives with plain brass scales.
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http://www.jaysknives.com/imperialknives.htm
not impressive. Sal or Eric will design something better looking.
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I have a Canal Street Cutlery slipjoint with a brass logo on it. After a couple months of carrying it, it's super dark brown and I need to use Flitz to make it look good.
Searching for "old brass knife" on google, they all look pretty good. It's tough to tell if they're unused, recently cleaned, or if they wear well.
Searching for "old brass knife" on google, they all look pretty good. It's tough to tell if they're unused, recently cleaned, or if they wear well.
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Bronze knife porn.... beware
Not to hijack your thread Blake, but I posted these in a thread months ago. They deserve a showing here too I think (despite the spydie hole being smooshed)!
The last one is my favorite. I would love an open feel, almost a throwback to the older open handles like the Harpy and Mariner.
The last one is my favorite. I would love an open feel, almost a throwback to the older open handles like the Harpy and Mariner.
*Landon*sal wrote: .... even today, we design a knife from the edge out!
I like bronze over brass as far as colors go, and well used look over shiny polished look, so I guess we're aproaching this thing from slightly different angles.bh49 wrote:not tempting for me. Brass will not tarnish as fast as copper or bronze. I believe that it is also harder.
Plain doesn't look any specials for me. Most likely too plain.
I'm not opposed to patterning per se, but do think that very delicate patterns don't wear as nice as a more robust figuring might. If the scratches to come (with use, collectors are a different issue as they won't be scratched) are in the same scale as the original, they take away from it. If, on the other hand, the scratches are in much smaller scale compared to the original surface topography, then they add to it.
xceptnl's examples were very illustrative! To my eyes the plain surface (first few images) was OK, but the macroscopic grooves were even more interesting. Of course that kind of patterning would need to be scaled down to fit the Chaparral, a much smaller knife, but you get my idea.
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Wow looks like it's time to add another strider to the collection lol those are sick! Hope the brass spydie is just as cool!
39 & counting...
:spyder: E3, Para mili, Salt 1 PE, Native, D3 OD, Ladybug, UKPK, Dodo, D4, Tasman, Ladybug Salt, Smallfly, Khukuri, Para Military, USN E4, Persistence, Civilian, Yojimbo, Smallfly, Manix 2 CE, Dodo, Military, D4 , Blackhawk, Pac Salt, Military, Manix 2, Captain, Assist, D'fly PE, Spyderhawk SE, Persian, Lum tanto, Warrior, Lil Temp, Tuff, spyderfly, szabofly, :spyder:
Dodo!
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Dodo!
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To clarify for those that don't know. Those 3 Striders were one off customs done by Dwayne. I am sure you could locate the original purchaser, but the price to get one off of them would probably be over $1200 if I had to guess.
He has actually done 3 runs of these Naval Bronze, each with unique knives and each run only having a handful of knives made
He has actually done 3 runs of these Naval Bronze, each with unique knives and each run only having a handful of knives made
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Brass is really nice but the alloy may contains a bit of lead to harden it. I would prefer an alloy without lead.bh49 wrote:not tempting for me. Brass will not tarnish as fast as copper or bronze. I believe that it is also harder.
In a sweat palm it tanishes quite fast.
After a couple of hours playing and using it, the tarnished surface is clearly visible compared to the surface under and around the pocket clip.
At its "moderate" stage, the patina is beautiful:
(Mac's Brass SST50 EDC flashlight)
| C10PGRE + C10FPK390 Endura 4 | C28GPFG Dragonfly | C36TIP Military | C41GP5 Native 5 | C54GPBN Calypso | C65CFP Lum Chinese | C81GPDBL2 PM2 | C90GFPD Strectch | C94TIP UK Penknife | C101PGY2 + C101PBORE2 Manix 2 | C113GPGY Caly 3 | C123TIP Sage 2 | C126GPFG Rock Lobster | C135GP Perrin PPT | C144CFPE Caly 3.5 | C163PBK Pingo | C164GPBN Nilakka || MT16P MT17P MT18P Mule Team |
I wouldn't want lead in my pocket (or hands for that matter) for long term, but a quick search reveals that there are lead free alternatives available in both brass and bronze so that shouldn't be a problem.
Regarding bronze, CuSn8 seems to be favored by watchmakers (e.g. Lüm-Tec, http://www.lum-tec.com/collection/curre ... e/m54.html) and is supposed to form a good looking patina.
Aluminum bronze is also used to an extent, see Halios for example (http://halioswatches.com/watches/tropik-b/), but I'd go for CuSn8, which should patina easier and to my eyes is a nicer color.
Last but not least, CuSn8 is know in UNS (short for "Unified Numbering System for Metals and Alloys") by C52100, which would be a very fitting pair to AISI 52100, wouldn't you say? Well, at least it's a definitive sign for using carbon / tool steels in combination with the bronze handle.
Regarding bronze, CuSn8 seems to be favored by watchmakers (e.g. Lüm-Tec, http://www.lum-tec.com/collection/curre ... e/m54.html) and is supposed to form a good looking patina.
Aluminum bronze is also used to an extent, see Halios for example (http://halioswatches.com/watches/tropik-b/), but I'd go for CuSn8, which should patina easier and to my eyes is a nicer color.
Last but not least, CuSn8 is know in UNS (short for "Unified Numbering System for Metals and Alloys") by C52100, which would be a very fitting pair to AISI 52100, wouldn't you say? Well, at least it's a definitive sign for using carbon / tool steels in combination with the bronze handle.
I am with you on lead, but there are quite a few Brass alloys without leadTallho wrote:Brass is really nice but the alloy may contains a bit of lead to harden it.
Nice light. Who is the maker and model?Tallho wrote:
At its "moderate" stage, the patina is beautiful:
(Mac's Brass SST50 EDC flashlight)
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