FFG Endura or FFG Stretch?

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FFG Endura or FFG Stretch?

Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:46 pm

Which do you go with? Full Flat Grind Endura with VG-10 blade or Full Flat Grind Stretch with VG-10 blade?

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Postby vaisforlovers » Thu Feb 06, 2014 9:59 pm

Personally, I'd go with the Stretch just because I prefer the shorter, 3.5" blade. Additionally, it keeps me legal in far more places, is less threatening, and lastly, I prefer the Stretch's blade shape.
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Postby RealKnifeUser » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:11 pm

Both are great, I slightly prefer the endura for a few reasons.

1. Longer handle allows me a full, extended, thumb on spine grip. This places the blade in perfect allignment with the thumb pad, wrist, and forearm muscles. Blade point lands where I look, very controlled grip with a ton of reach.

2. Looks, IMO, better than the Stretch. Not that the Stretch is ugly, I just like Endura's look more

3. Little bit thicker and stiffer blade, talking about stock thickness and grind. The Stretch does cut better, but I didn't notice a huge difference in general use. The Endura's grind is just more durable without sacrificing much in cutting ability.

4. Price. Endura is cheaper in every style
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Postby spyder_happy » Thu Feb 06, 2014 10:37 pm

+1 for the FFG endura. I use mine everyday on boxes, zip ties, plastic pallet straps, clam shell packaging and have found it quite capable. :)
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Postby CanadaDude » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:19 am

Endura. As with any FRN knife, Endura or Stretch, just make sure it doesn't have blade play when you buy it.

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Postby KardinalSyn » Fri Feb 07, 2014 12:34 am

The one that appeals to you the most personally.
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Postby The Deacon » Fri Feb 07, 2014 5:50 am

It's an easy choice for me. Stretch has a 50/50 choil, fits my hand like a custom made glove, and fits nicely in my back pocket. Endura lacks a 50/50 choil, fits my hand like an oven mitt, and is too long when closed to ride in the bottom of a back pocket. That said, the Endura is every bit as well built as the Stretch, so if your carry style allows for larger knives and you prefer an unstructured handle, it might be a better choice.
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Postby FCM415 » Fri Feb 07, 2014 6:24 am

I like them both very much and rotate the two with others in my lineup. If I had to choose one, I'd go with the Stretch. It's thinner grind makes it the better slicer and you dont see that thin blade in production knives except for a few other Spydies. Knives cut so Ill go with the better cutter. Im a fan of the finger choil and find it useful on knives that have it. The ergos are better for me not that the Endura lacks in that dept though. I like the Endura when I want to go longer blade and it sits better in the pocket. I have the fancier Spydies in my collection and value them but these two knives I carry more than others combined. I appreciate the light weight and strengths and are very capable tools.
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Postby Blerv » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:38 am

vaisforlovers wrote:Personally, I'd go with the Stretch just because I prefer the shorter, 3.5" blade. Additionally, it keeps me legal in far more places, is less threatening, and lastly, I prefer the Stretch's blade shape.
^-- all of this plus the handle is awesome.
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Postby Revival » Fri Feb 07, 2014 8:44 am

I would go with the Stretch. It's very comfortable in the hand. I was never a fan of the endura though.

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Postby SpyderEdgeForever » Fri Feb 07, 2014 10:27 am

CanadaDude wrote:Endura. As with any FRN knife, Endura or Stretch, just make sure it doesn't have blade play when you buy it.
How do I make sure there is no blade play if I buy it through the mail as opposed to an actual physical knife store? Should I ask the people selling it if it has blade play, or, in general most Spydercoes do not have blade play?

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Postby Blerv » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:44 pm

SpyderEdgeForever wrote:How do I make sure there is no blade play if I buy it through the mail as opposed to an actual physical knife store? Should I ask the people selling it if it has blade play, or, in general most Spydercoes do not have blade play?
Blade-play is fairly subjective so you can't really know for sure. If you want to avoid lateral blade-play I would just not buy a lockback.

The only knife I've held that literally had no wiggle was a large Sebenza but the action was very heavy and the tolerances are impressive. IMO, it's a balance of preferences for the individual.
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Postby cabfrank » Fri Feb 07, 2014 1:53 pm

Stretch. One of my faves. Better (subjective, I know) ergos, thinner grind, smoother (mine was), big blade in small package a la Caly 3.5, choil...all that said, my first Spydie was a purple Endura, and I loved it too. I just love the Stretch more.

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Postby mikerestivo » Fri Feb 07, 2014 4:23 pm

Another Stretch vote. I like the choil, ergonomics, blade shape (allows for easy thumb pressure on the spine of the blade). It's a funny looking knife, but it's highly functional.

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Postby eric m. » Sat Feb 08, 2014 7:00 am

The Stretch is my favorite blade shape that Spyderco makes! The handle fits my hand like a glove too!

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Postby Evil D » Sat Feb 08, 2014 8:46 am

I'm not an Endura fan so I would immediately say Stretch, but thinking unbiased I would say if you ever find that you use your knife with gloves on, the Endura would be a better choice because of the bigger handle. The Stretch fits my hand near perfectly but doesn't leave any room for the added bulk of work/winter gloves.
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Postby RealKnifeUser » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:45 am

Evil D wrote:I'm not an Endura fan so I would immediately say Stretch, but thinking unbiased I would say if you ever find that you use your knife with gloves on, the Endura would be a better choice because of the bigger handle. The Stretch fits my hand near perfectly but doesn't leave any room for the added bulk of work/winter gloves.
That's actually one of the reasons I didn't like the Stretch as much. Very good point! It was slightly cramped for my hands already and the cut resistant gloves I wear at work made it more cramped
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Postby RealKnifeUser » Sat Feb 08, 2014 10:56 am

Also, I should add that the only reason I can even feel cramped on the stretch is BECAUSE of the IMHO better and more refined handle ergo's. It just settles your hand into one position, so if your paws are too big for it (mine are slightly) then you may prefer the Endura. Didn't want to sound like I was bashing on the Stretch, just stating opinions
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Postby ASmitty » Sat Feb 08, 2014 11:23 am

Stretch for me. First, the Endura is big enough to be a little unwieldy for me while the Stretch is not. In addition, I"m a big fan of the Stretch's better blade to handle ratio. The difference between the blade and handle lengths on the Stretch is 7/8" based on the specs on Spyderco's site while the Endura's difference is 1.25". While it may seem insignificant, blade to handle ratio is an important spec to me. I've EDC'd a Delica since 2004 and when the D4 came out the extra 1/4" of handle with no blade length increase was the hardest thing to overcome when I started EDCing the new version. Blade to handle ratio is also the reason I love the Caly 3.5 so much.
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