Hi all,
Does anyone happen to know for a fact whether the lock face on the techno is heat treated (or carbidized)?
I've read contradicting thoughts on different forums..some claim the lock face on their techno is a different color (brownish) suggesting possibility of it being heat treated..mine however seems identical color as the frame itself.
I am concerned about the lock wear over time..
It seems to be a known issue with the sage 2 as well **edit:see below
Anyway, your thoughts will be appreciated :)
**Edit: I should not have called it a "known issue" with sage 2..I meant to refer to sage 2 being known not to have heat-treated or carbidized lock face, and therefore
increasing lock wear rate (and lock travel) over time.
Should have been more clear. Apologies for the confusion.
Techno lock face
So is the tip of your lockbar is actually brown? mine is identical color as the rest of the frame! what's that about..knolan wrote:I always thought that the Sage 2 was not treated, but the Techno was...hence the brown color on the tip of the lock-bar. I've never disassembled my Techno but have seen threads where others had, and taken macro shots of the lock-bar face showing the color difference.
Can't see mine and I'm not sure how one could get a good look at it (just the face that touches the blade tang) w/o (a) disassembly or (b) over extending the lock-bar outwardly beyond it's design intent, possibly causing it to take a "set"...something I'm unwilling to do w/mine.Leon wrote:So is the tip of your lockbar is actually brown? mine is identical color as the rest of the frame! what's that about..
Yea it cant be seen that well, but I tried shining a light into it when the knife is closed and looked with a magnifier..seemed same grayish tone as the rest of the frame..but I might be wrong..knolan wrote:Can't see mine and I'm not sure how one could get a good look at it (just the face that touches the blade tang) w/o (a) disassembly or (b) over extending the lock-bar outwardly beyond it's design intent, possibly causing it to take a "set"...something I'm unwilling to do w/mine.
Yeah...know what you mean. I can say that neither my Sage 2 or Techno's lock-bar has moved at all, even w/obsessive opening and closing in the approx. year I've owned each. Further, I remember Sal responded to a worried Sage 2 owner in a past thread that if the lock-bar ever failed, he would take care of it....that relieved my fears. I also can't remember any threads anywhere on any forum where either of these models ever failed or suffered from lock rock? The worst I remember was where one person reported having a Sage lock bar travel around 80/90% but who knows if that's true?
Yea..i've read many posts here and there about people complaining about the lockbar on the sage with increased travel..altho it didnt stop me from buying one..it just stays more time sitting in the boxknolan wrote:Yeah...know what you mean. I can say that neither my Sage 2 or Techno's lock-bar has moved at all, even w/obsessive opening and closing in the approx. year I've owned each. Further, I remember Sal responded to a worried Sage 2 owner in a past thread that if the lock-bar ever failed, he would take care of it....that relieved my fears. I also can't remember any threads anywhere on any forum where either of these models ever failed or suffered from lock rock? The worst I remember was where one person reported having a Sage lock bar travel around 80/90% but who knows if that's true?
I would like to use my techno like the tank it seems to be..so was hoping the lockface on this one was more resistant to wear
and to clarify, by "known issue", I meant to refer to increased titanium wear due to not being heat-treated and titanium's inherent softness...should have been more clear.
(and it's known that sage 2's lock face is for a fact not heat treated)
Hey Folks!
As far as I know the lock face of the Techno is carbidized. I've read it several times around the web.
Actually, mine has its lock face clearly brown tarnished, and I keep it properly clean to say it is just some gunk. :cool:
Worried about the wear? I'm very confident that you don't have to worry about it. It's gonna last way more than a lifetime with proper use.
Issues with the lock face of the Sage 2? Really? Never heard about it, anywhere.
I do have a Sage 2 in my collection, that I've used a lot, and it never had any kind of issue with the lock whatsoever. :)
As far as I know the lock face of the Techno is carbidized. I've read it several times around the web.
Actually, mine has its lock face clearly brown tarnished, and I keep it properly clean to say it is just some gunk. :cool:
Worried about the wear? I'm very confident that you don't have to worry about it. It's gonna last way more than a lifetime with proper use.
Issues with the lock face of the Sage 2? Really? Never heard about it, anywhere.
I do have a Sage 2 in my collection, that I've used a lot, and it never had any kind of issue with the lock whatsoever. :)
Stay Sharp!
Hey Folks!
I've just remembered that according to Brad Southard, at least his model and the Techno are Heat Hardened.
Technically, Carbidized and Heat Hardened are not exactly the same procedures, but the result it's about the same one: it ensures an excellent way to prevent any kind of wear.
And still, I bet triple that you don't have to worry about any kind of wear, it's going to last you way more than a lifetime with proper use. :cool:
I've just remembered that according to Brad Southard, at least his model and the Techno are Heat Hardened.
Technically, Carbidized and Heat Hardened are not exactly the same procedures, but the result it's about the same one: it ensures an excellent way to prevent any kind of wear.
And still, I bet triple that you don't have to worry about any kind of wear, it's going to last you way more than a lifetime with proper use. :cool:
Stay Sharp!
Sorry that's not quite right. The heat hardening is just a very thin coating, and it can and does get worn through (it happens with all brands of knives that heat harden the lock face, from CRK down the line). Carbidizing also wears over time (I have a carbidizer and have played with this). They slow wear, not eliminate it.LC Kid wrote:Hey Folks!
I've just remembered that according to Brad Southard, at least his model and the Techno are Heat Hardened.
Technically, Carbidized and Heat Hardened are not exactly the same procedures, but the result it's about the same one: it ensures an excellent way to prevent any kind of wear.
And still, I bet triple that you don't have to worry about any kind of wear, it's going to last you way more than a lifetime with proper use. :cool:
And lifespan will depend on usage. There are posts of 10-15 year old well used (not abused or excessively flicked) Sebenzas that hit full lock up and had to get sent in for a check in. IMO that long with that much use is a nice lifespan for a knife, and surely for most of us here with plenty more than one knife, the average frame lock is not going to be used like that every day, but your generalization is not quite correct...in general :p .