Sal's post on BF was another casual bombshell from a few days ago. He mentioned he was carrying the production piece and that it was CPM....... huge shocker out of left field!Clip wrote:Cruwear - Cru = Crucible. Not sure it's a PM steel though, so no CPM.
Sal Glesser wrote:I should probably mention that the Cruwear Military is CPM Cruwear. :eek: The first powdered Cruwear to be used in production. I'm sure enjoying mine.
sal
*Landon*sal wrote: .... even today, we design a knife from the edge out!
Now that you mention it I can think of other areas of life where people choose things based on appearance only and have second thoughts laterxceptnl wrote:It's not that strange... the eye can decieve however the hands will often tell it true!
Thanks for sharing that link as well as your thoughts and observations Joe.The Mastiff wrote:I was looking over the product sheets here: http://www.nsm-ny.com/index.cfm?fuseact ... page_id=35
In comparing Ingot to Powder Cruwear the differences are what I expected. A little bit tougher impact scores ( extra 5 lb at same hardness for powder version) with slightly less Adhesive wear scores. I'm not really sure adhesive wear is something that is really very noticeable on a knife steel. Abrasive scores were not given but I don't expect much if any difference.
What I might notice in Powder steels is the finer grain structure and smaller carbides over what you would get from an ingot steel of the same composition heat treated the same way. Some might notice, some may not. I believe Cliff Stamp didn't think the typical numbers involved were noticeable to humans, I'm not sure I agree ( going by memory, I could be incorrect in what Cliff said).
In general I do feel I notice the effect we have talked about where steel performs better after a couple of sharpenings has removed some steel to a greater extent in the higher alloyed powder steels than I do in simpler ingot steels, O-1 being an example I've spoken about.
I feel the powder steels are cleaner, easier to sharpen ( even after some steel has been removed) for the same chemistry and hardness. CPM 154 vs 154cm being a classic example. I like the powder steel much better. I will probably like CPM Cruwear for the same reason I prefer CPM 154 over 154cm.
I'm really looking forward to this, and have even been more excited about trying it in CPM Cruwear. Looking at Niagara it is obvious that the powder process has added costs. It's expensive steel.
All in all it just keeps getting better and better the more I learn about this sprint. It's nice to See that Sal didn't waste potential by a heat treat and hardness that didn't go for a good balance of wear and toughness. They seemed to pick a sweet spot for the steel that should appeal across the board. That is no surprise though. They always seem too. Not the highest, but far from a low hardness either. Just right for a hard use knife with a 4 inch blade that needs a certain amount of toughness, wear resistance and sharpenability.
If I designed this sprint I can't think of anything I would have changed. I even like the color selected. I can't wait to get one in my hot hands now. Remember though. Like 3V, if the rust is allowed to stay, it will pit. The depth can surprise you. Don't sweat rust spots on the blade after a day at work out in the sun in Texas but don't forget it when you get home either. Rinse the salt off and give it a quick wipe down. Silicone gun cloths are perfect for that and easily available at big box store sporting goods sections for $2.99.
Now, back to waiting.
Joe
*Landon*sal wrote: .... even today, we design a knife from the edge out!
*Landon*sal wrote: .... even today, we design a knife from the edge out!
smiling in anticipationThe Mastiff wrote:I used to have a picture of my last mastiff, Hunter. Somebody took one of me giving him his after walk treat. It really showed how large these guys mouths are. It looked like one of those great white shark pictures but in dog form. I'm used to them. I give Finn meds three times a day or more by putting the medicine down near his throat. My hand disappears in his mouth and his front teeth are about halfway up to my elbow. If he bit down my hand would end up in his stomach, no exaggeration. Fortunately he is not real inclined to hurt, or eat his family.
That is a cool picture though Cheddarnut. The Mastiff looks like he is smiling.
:)
Its showing Discontinued on KC's website. Also I've had a few pre-orders thru them and never had them take actual cash payments at the time the pre-order was placed..they don't take payments until the item ships..xceptnl wrote:I only know of KC taking pre-orders and as late in the game as it is since the initial news went up on their site I would say that is a gamble. It could be worth the chance though, they refund deposits if they can't fill the order.
Right, last week, I could feel it in my bones that it was about to be released, then I ran across a post in an old thread that said it would be released, I believe, in the late summer or in the fall.... gulp... the fall runs to 20 Dec in the Northern Hemisphere this yearCheddarnut wrote:bump with the intention of stirring up mass thought waves to help manifest this product.
We dont have to hold hands, but collective focus is essential.
Close your eyes, deep breath, release
say in your head "we will soon see the cruwear military
the first knife to sell out on preorder without a single image online
it is coming...
it is here"
then quickly fondle all your other spydies to keep your hand occupied.
repeat
I hope that ETA has been revised.This is direct quote from Sal on BF's: "right now, we're getting ready to start shipping a Millie in Cruwear (Joe's model). I'm using a production piece now."DougC-3 wrote:Right, last week, I could feel it in my bones that it was about to be released, then I ran across a post in an old thread that said it would be released, I believe, in the late summer or in the fall.... gulp... the fall runs to 20 Dec in the Northern Hemisphere this year
This is a direct quote from Sal on BF's: "right now, we're getting ready to start shipping a Millie in Cruwear (Joe's model). I'm using a production piece now."DougC-3 wrote:Right, last week, I could feel it in my bones that it was about to be released, then I ran across a post in an old thread that said it would be released, I believe, in the late summer or in the fall.... gulp... the fall runs to 20 Dec in the Northern Hemisphere this year
Thanks for the reminder -- I knew I'd seen something like that somewhere. That cheers me up :)Philo Beddoe wrote:This is a direct quote from Sal on BF's: "right now, we're getting ready to start shipping a Millie in Cruwear (Joe's model). I'm using a production piece now."
Sounds like it will be coming out sooner than later to me..
See Post #36 of this thread: http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/sh...r-Mr-Sal/page2
