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Sage1 and Native5

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I'm partial to the ~3" blade length. They fit in the pocket well and have enough blade length to keep me happy.

Of my small collection of Spydies, the Sage1 has been my most carried knife. It shares pocket time mainly with a couple of Caly3s (CF and SB) and a PM2. I've wanted to get a Native5 for a while but they've been hard to come by, so I waited for the Forum knife once it was clear that the Native5 was the model chosen.

I'm sure this is common knowledge to everyone but me, but the Sage and Native5 are very similar.

Sage1

length overall 7.125" (181 mm)
blade length 3" (76 mm)
length closed 4.188" (106 mm)
cutting edge 2.625" (67 mm)
weight 3.2oz (91g)
blade thickness .125" (3 mm)

Native5

length overall 6.95" (177 mm)
blade length 2.95" (75 mm)
length closed 4" (102 mm)
cutting edge 2.42" (61 mm)
weight 3.6 oz (102 g)
blade thickness 0.125" (3.2 mm)

The specs indicate they'd be pretty similar. Having them both now, I know I'm really going to like the Native5 as it's almost like a brother to the Sage1 (or probably the other way around). Similar size and weight. Same finger choil. Similar basic handle shape. Obviously they're a different lock, clip, and the Sage has a ramp.

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Sage 1 is my edc choice atm as well!
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What I'd really like to see is a Native V with the CF and flat blade spine used on the Sage 1.
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The Deacon wrote:What I'd really like to see is a Native V with the CF and flat blade spine used on the Sage 1.
Deacon, are you not a fan of the swedge?
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thurin wrote: I know I'm really going to like the Native5 as it's almost like a brother to the Sage1
Long time ago, before Sage came out, Sal talking about the idea commented that Sage (half hump) will be a hybrid of Native (no hump) and Caly3 (hump). So Native5 is like a father to Sage.
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The Deacon wrote:What I'd really like to see is a Native V with the CF and flat blade spine used on the Sage 1.
The CF on the Sage1 is my favorite style of CF on the Spydies. That'd be cool on the Native. I'm curious to see what the Fluted CF is like.

The other part of the Sage1 I'd like to see on the native is the clip. I like the deeper carry of the wire clip vs the hourglass.

I'm not sure what I think about the swedge yet.
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The Sage 1 was the knife that made me fall in love with Carbon Fiber - I'd love to see that pattern show up on more knives.
◊ Manix 2 XL ◊ Manix 2 lightweight blue ◊ Caly 3 carbon fiber ◊ Caly 3 damascus / CF ◊ Lum Chinese Nishijin ◊ Sage 1 ◊ Superleaf
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xceptnl wrote:Deacon, are you not a fan of the swedge?
Yes, Paul is not fan of swedge, me neither :) , still I love my Natives.
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In your photo he forum knife looks almost blue. I know it's green but looks blue to me. I like!
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I lie the cf on the broadly folder definatly my favorite
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The mid size knives are best especially in Spyderco because of the blade steels and quality of construction they perform like much larger knives. The Dragonfly size is too small for any practical use other than a fine key chain knife. Whereas the large true tacticals are too big for EDC which make the Native and Caly size perfect
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bh49 wrote:Long time ago, before Sage came out, Sal talking about the idea commented that Sage (half hump) will be a hybrid of Native (no hump) and Caly3 (hump). So Native5 is like a father to Sage.
Interesting. Having only tried the hump and half hump, I currently prefer hump. Hopefully by next week I'll get my hands on the no hump. ;)
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Southard, Techno, Sage 2, Gayle Bradley
Super Blue Caly 3, Caly 3.5, Endura and G10 Ladybug
ZDP-189 G10 Dragonfly, ZDP-189 Nishijin Dragonfly
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CarbonFiberNut wrote:The Sage 1 was the knife that made me fall in love with Carbon Fiber - I'd love to see that pattern show up on more knives.
Getting off topic here but I love the CF on the Dodo and how it's just two thick slabs of CF with no liners.
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Southard, Techno, Sage 2, Gayle Bradley
Super Blue Caly 3, Caly 3.5, Endura and G10 Ladybug
ZDP-189 G10 Dragonfly, ZDP-189 Nishijin Dragonfly
[HR][/HR]:spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder:
-Brandon

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bh49 wrote:Long time ago, before Sage came out, Sal talking about the idea commented that Sage (half hump) will be a hybrid of Native (no hump) and Caly3 (hump). So Native5 is like a father to Sage.
Cool Info. In that case, we need a better family photo:

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thurin wrote:Cool Info. In that case, we need a better family photo:
Thanks for the pic Thurin, I was just about to request this comparison.
Looks like the wire clip is a dominate trait. :)
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[td]Cruwear Military, CTS-204P Para 2, K390 Mule
Southard, Techno, Sage 2, Gayle Bradley
Super Blue Caly 3, Caly 3.5, Endura and G10 Ladybug
ZDP-189 G10 Dragonfly, ZDP-189 Nishijin Dragonfly
[HR][/HR]:spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder::spyder:
-Brandon

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