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notches on paramilitary 2 spine

Postby Buendia518 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:24 pm

Hello everyone I'm looking for some help...
I just received a paramilitary 2 from amazon and there are four small notches on the spine, they start about 1 cm from the tip and are evenly spaced about 5mm apart from each other.

I'm curious if this could possibly be a factory second mark because there are other finish issues.

Thanks for any help.

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Postby guitarwolf » Fri Jul 12, 2013 10:28 pm

Someone with more knowledge can help you in a second, but from my understanding the factory seconds are marked by a grind mark on the thumb hole. Do you have a pic?

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Postby Buendia518 » Fri Jul 12, 2013 11:16 pm

I don't have a proper camera to capture it, but I checked some seconds marks posted online and these definitely look smaller than those.
I wonder if a knife would leave the factory like that considering that production must be a little rushed.

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Postby Minibear453 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:00 am

Considering that they are at the tip, I don't think they are second marks. I believe second marks are usually just one notch carved near the spyder hole. Pictures would help though. And I really doubt it came from the factory like that, because I can't imagine why you'd have marks on a knife like that. Unless they're deep scratches?
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Postby guitarwolf » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:22 am

It almost sounds like someone tried to add jimping

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Postby Buendia518 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 12:43 am

Well to be clear the notches are on the left corner of the spine much like the seconds marks only small in comparison. They're just enough to catch my fingernail. It looks to me like someone could have hit it hard with another knife, or tapped it in with a hammer.
I've had mixed results ordering from amazon and I'm a little suspicious that I got a returned knife. It's hard to decide whether I keep it or send it back and start waiting.....

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Postby The Deacon » Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:25 am

Factory seconds are marked with a single notch. That notch is normally placed on the right side of the blade's spine, either on the thumb ramp or above the Spyderhole. So the notches you describe are not "seconds" notches and I think that your suspicion that you were not the first person to whom Amazon shipped that particular ParaMilitary 2 and that the original recipient was less than careful with it, is probably correct.
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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 7:13 am

Didn't old time gunfighters notch their gun for every man they killed? :D

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Postby Kev83 » Sat Jul 13, 2013 9:16 am

chuck_roxas45 wrote:Didn't old time gunfighters notch their gun for every man they killed? :D
I lol'd at this!

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Postby Buendia518 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:37 am

Soooo, after I contacted amazon they offered me twenty percent off my PM2, so I'm in less than $90 and I plan on keeping it, even though it has some vertical play and finish issues.

However I'm always nervous of buying a counterfeit so I'd like to know, does Sal's signature look roughly etched on a PM2 compared to a Stretch or Caly? (hopefully)

And does anyone have advice on vertical movement on this knife? As mentioned someone may have abused this knife before I bought it so that may be the end of the story. I'm interested in how most people end up adjusting the compression lock screws if at all, and how commonly vertical movement is found.

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Postby ZL1 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 12:46 am

doesn't sound normal if you are having multiple issues at once
why not try to get a refund?

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Postby Buendia518 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:55 am

I guess I still might. I still have 3 weeks left of the return window so I'm gonna feel it out, potentially get some clear photographs to post on here and wring the collective knowledge.
But assuming it's genuine I could use it all I wanted and resell it for a small profit, though that's not without its share of hassles.

I notice if I push the lock to engage deeper there's no more play, I wonder if the lock would eventually wear down and tighten up?? Or if the repair/ warranty service could potentially do work like that?

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Postby Fresh Eddie Fresh » Sun Jul 21, 2013 3:47 am

If it were my choice, I would send it back... if you send it back for warranty repair, it will cost you almost what you are saving in postage. It sounds like you got a used/returned knife.

I used to collect Star Wars figures and in stores you would regularly see older versions of figures in the newer packages. People would buy the newest version, take it home and carefully open the package, then remove and replace the figure with the older, not as nice version, and return it to the store for their money back. Once I bought a couple figures I was really excited about but didn't look closely enough and got ripped off because of that. Part of me is wondering if it would be possible for someone to get a fake knife from a reputable dealer if a dishonest person bought a real Para2 then swapped in a fake one and returned it. An Amazon seller might not know the difference enough to identify it.

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Postby gbelleh » Sun Jul 21, 2013 8:07 am

Why would you want to keep a knife with so many problems? Using a Para 2 should be a joy. Just exchange or return it.
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Postby Tdog » Sun Jul 21, 2013 1:39 pm

Buendia518 wrote:Hello everyone I'm looking for some help...
I just received a paramilitary 2 from amazon and there are four small notches on the spine, they start about 1 cm from the tip and are evenly spaced about 5mm apart from each other.

I'm curious if this could possibly be a factory second mark because there are other finish issues.

Thanks for any help.
When you say the knife was purchased from "Amazon" did it come from a particular store/vendor, or was it sold directly by Amazon? Thx

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Postby bpeezer » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:19 pm

Sounds like someone tried to add their own ruler to the spine :eek:

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Postby Sithus1966 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 4:21 pm

We need pictures
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Postby springnr » Sun Jul 21, 2013 7:17 pm

I bought a Balance from Amazon, the company directly.
Upon opening it took about 5 minutes to get over the shock and repackage the knife for return. It was like all the returns had been built into one knife from the defective parts. Refund was no problem.

Send er back, and reorder from one of the knife dealers frequently mentioned here.

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Postby Holland » Sun Jul 21, 2013 9:19 pm

pictures may prove asset
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Postby Doc13 » Sun Jul 21, 2013 10:36 pm

I agree with Holland, this is an extremely futile effort without pics!!


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