Has anyone actually worn out a Ti framelock?

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Has anyone actually worn out a Ti framelock?

Postby Parkourdude » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:34 am

Hey guys.

Has anyone actually worn out a Ti framelock from a quality manufacturer with normal use?

I see so many posts on forums about Ti frame locks. It has always been wear this, wear that, posting about possible wear of the Titanium...

I've yet to find a post of someone actually wearing one out from use (not abuse).

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:38 am

No one actually uses them?

LOL, just kidding. :)

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Postby Parkourdude » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:57 am

chuck_roxas45 wrote:No one actually uses them?

LOL, just kidding. :)
Haha, wouldn't surprise me. I'd be pretty scared to use some of the mid-tech frame locks.

What about good production ones? Like Spyderco's offerings.

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:07 am

I have a couple framelocks and one of them is a TI millie. The lockup moved a bit fast initially but then settled down and has stayed that way. I really can't say I have used it a lot(but it has seen some use) since I prefer the Ti/CF platform for the millie. I really don't think wear is all that worrisome on a framelock(or any other knife for that matter), unless you really stress the lock often with "hard use" or if you use the knife like worry beads. :)

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Postby razorsharp » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:24 am

I haven't worn one out (strider) and I've abused it

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:39 am

razorsharp wrote:I haven't worn one out (strider) and I've abused it
How long have you had it Trav?

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Postby razorsharp » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:54 am

Hmm, gotta be a few months

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:59 am

razorsharp wrote:Hmm, gotta be a few months
I wonder how it will be after a year or so with the same kind of use.

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Postby toomzz » Fri Jun 28, 2013 5:14 am

Hi, I just recently purchased a couple Titanium linerlocks from Spyderco. However, I also had a BM Emerson ATS34 linerlock with Ti liners. I bought it back in 1998 and sold the knife after 12 years of fine service in 2010. It served me well in my Kosovo-tour back in 1999. No problems with the lock, no wear and a solid lock up. I am convinced Ti is a good (when well executed in the productionprocess of course) linerlock material.
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Postby Parkourdude » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:25 am

toomzz wrote:Hi, I just recently purchased a couple Titanium linerlocks from Spyderco. However, I also had a BM Emerson ATS34 linerlock with Ti liners. I bought it back in 1998 and sold the knife after 12 years of fine service in 2010. It served me well in my Kosovo-tour back in 1999. No problems with the lock, no wear and a solid lock up. I am convinced Ti is a good (when well executed in the productionprocess of course) linerlock material.
Wow... 12 years and still kicking? Since then I'm sure our manufacturers have learned a thing or two as well.

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Postby chuck_roxas45 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 6:55 am

Parkourdude wrote:Wow... 12 years and still kicking? Since then I'm sure our manufacturers have learned a thing or two as well.
They should last a long time if they're not abused. :)

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Postby senorsquare » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:05 am

chuck_roxas45 wrote:...or if you use the knife like worry beads. :)
flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close...

I have been guilty of using a knife like this :)

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Postby bh49 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:48 am

I have ZT561. It is fun knife to play and I opened and closed it more times than I care to admit :o . I do not see any visible wear.
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Postby wrdwrght » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:35 am

senorsquare wrote:flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close, flick, snap, close...

I have been guilty of using a knife like this :)
+1. :rolleyes: No wonder the lock on my Sage2 now travels all the way to the opposite scale. When virgin, the lock traveled less than half the distance.

But, given that the lockup remains as tight as day one, I would have to say the lock is worn down but not out.

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Postby Parkourdude » Fri Jun 28, 2013 9:36 am

bh49 wrote:I have ZT561. It is fun knife to play and I opened and closed it more times than I care to admit :o . I do not see any visible wear.
Yeah that flipper would be so **** addicting to play with. Good to know about the (lack of) wear.

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Postby GoodEyeSniper » Fri Jun 28, 2013 1:40 pm

my CPM M4 Millie has been my main carry since it came out, which I believe was 2.5 years ago now?? It's my only Ti framelock, unfortunately it has the steel insert so that doesn't really help with your question. All I know is the lockup hasn't budged since maybe the first month. It started around 40%, broke in to about 50% and there it sits.

edit: and while I don't abuse my knives, I certainly don't baby them. This has seen some serious wood prep for camp fires, hardwood whittling, countless cardboard boxes and zip ties, picking thorns out of bike tires, stabbed into 2x4s to hold a lightweight cloth in place, etc...

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Postby IG-88 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 2:06 pm

Most of my EDC have been Ti Frame locks and I have never worn out the lock on a Hinderer, Sebenza, Spyderco or Strider knife. Its a great lock IMO.
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Postby bpeezer » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:08 pm

I saw one worn out once. It wasn't mine, but a friend's. His dad carried it for years, and my friend carried it exclusively for over a decade. He never once cleaned or sharpened it, and constantly flicked it for fun. Maker's mark was worn off so I don't know what it was, but I think it was as cheap as Ti framelocks get.

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Postby salimoneus » Fri Jun 28, 2013 10:12 pm

FYI it's highly recommended to not continuously flick open any knife regardless of make or materials. I have a feeling the vast majority of worn out locks are due to this issue as it surely causes premature wear and will probably cut the lifespan of your knife in half if not more. If only opened when it's going to be used, cleaned, or sharpened, most high quality knives should last many many years.

As a side note, you may notice on some newer knives they are starting to use a replaceable steel insert at the tip of the locking engagement point. It probably adds a bit more weight but if you are the chronic flicker type this may be the way to go. Just make sure to stock up on plenty of replacement inserts at the time of purchase =)

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Postby razorsharp » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:56 am

If my knife can't hold up to me playing with it, that doesn't say quality to me


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