I heard that the RIL lockbar contacting surface to the blade tang is heat-treated so that to form a thin layer of Ti carbide to resist wear on the lockbar due to the lock up action.
Does it also applied to the RIL featured in Spyder folders like Techno?
Thanks!
Reeve's Integral Lock
I think I know what you are concerned about. The wear out of the titanium.....don't be.
Regardless of if it's treated or not, with a knife that small, you will not wear it out.(unless you baton with it
)
I've used liner locks with .050" thick titanium liners for years and never have they gone wall to wall.
Go for it! :)
Regardless of if it's treated or not, with a knife that small, you will not wear it out.(unless you baton with it
)I've used liner locks with .050" thick titanium liners for years and never have they gone wall to wall.
Go for it! :)
SCARAMOUCHE! 
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GoodEyeSniper
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how many models do they use the steel insert for their frame locks? I know my military has one.
as far as a well designed lock, I would imagine you generally don't have much to fear, probably would take in the hundreds of thousands of openings to start to wear noticeably. Or seeing use with a lot of shock to the mechanism like chopping, batoning...
as far as a well designed lock, I would imagine you generally don't have much to fear, probably would take in the hundreds of thousands of openings to start to wear noticeably. Or seeing use with a lot of shock to the mechanism like chopping, batoning...
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Spyderco does not heat treat the lock bar face like CRK, but I would not be worried about it.
I have a first run ti Millie without the insert and have had no problems. There are a few other ti frame locks in the lineup, and I've not heard any complaints of accelerated lock bar wear.
I have a first run ti Millie without the insert and have had no problems. There are a few other ti frame locks in the lineup, and I've not heard any complaints of accelerated lock bar wear.
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According to Brad Southard, at least his model and the Techno are heat hardened.Scottie3000 wrote:Spyderco does not heat treat the lock bar face like CRK, but I would not be worried about it.
I have a first run ti Millie without the insert and have had no problems. There are a few other ti frame locks in the lineup, and I've not heard any complaints of accelerated lock bar wear.
Brad S. wrote:It is not carbidized, it is however heat hardened at the lockface, Just like the Chris Reeves Sebenza, or the Spyderco Techno. An excellent way to prevent wear.
I think you will be pleasantly suprised.
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Hey Folks!
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You just have to look carefully at the lockface of your Techno's Titanium Integral Frame Lock.
You'll easily notice the different color of the Titanium, because of the heat hardened treatment.
That color reminds the deep blue/purple anodized Ti.
jabba359 wrote:According to Brad Southard, at least his model and the Techno are heat hardened.
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You just have to look carefully at the lockface of your Techno's Titanium Integral Frame Lock.
You'll easily notice the different color of the Titanium, because of the heat hardened treatment.
That color reminds the deep blue/purple anodized Ti.
Stay Sharp!
Of all the lock types I've encountered, the RIL is the only one to ever fail me, and that was on a Sebenza... I don't understand why it's considered so strong since the contacting part on the lock bar can wear down if you don't open and close it just the right way. Yeah it's a thicker liner lock basically, but the problem with it is that a thicker bar will round out more easily unless the locking bar is pulled back far enough to the point where it's not making contact with the blade when closing.