tr4022 wrote:Now I ask you, where else you gonna get customer service like ^^^^^?!
KardinalSyn wrote:This is why I will continue to stick with Spyderco.
Where are you getting this? You know, I have to apologize, I didnt see you standing there that day. I would have offered you a cookie!nullity wrote:The OP inadventintly bent the lockbar too far outward.
Chopping puts pressure on the stop-pin, and not the lockbar, if done "correctly".
I am seeing user error, plain and simple.
Without more information there's no way to know. Pictures, maybe?
Thanks Joe! I really appreciate it. Yea, I was not expecting this reaction to the thread. Half the people seem to think I just popped in, made an account, and posted this thread.The Mastiff wrote:DC is one of us and should be given the respect we would want extended to ourselves. On the same note I believe that since this is a new design and there aren't really many complaints along the lines of what DC is referring to Sal and Ed and Spyderco should be given the opportunity to look at the knife in question if for no other reason than to figure out what is happening, if it can happen again, and if there is a problem requiring correction involving more than just DC's knife.
DC, if money is a problem getting it shipped I will gladly send you a few dollars to help get it in to look at it. It should be followed up if nothing else than out of respect for Sal, Ed, Spyderco, and all of us buyers of the Tuff.
DC, I shouldn't even ask as I know better but did you make any adjustments attempting to get it to open easier when you were having troubles with it being tight?
No offense, just had to ask.
Mine is still essentially new so I can't comment on it. I have ZDP enduras I've worked much harder so my experience is lacking other than being able to comment about fit and finish on mine, which is superlative. Amazing knife!
Hey, thanks for that, that last line is very well said!xavierdoc wrote:As much as I enjoy these brief flirtations off topic...
Back to the Tuff! I value the OP sharing his experience. Arguably, he could have ducked some flak by avoiding comments about "not living up to the hype". Such comments invite defensive responses from Spydie fans.
My own Tuff seems to be holding up well to similar use described by the OP. I'm very happy with it, although I have reground the tip as it was so thick behind the edge that sharpening was impossible. It's still a rugged tip but now it's sharp, too!
With respect to the lock "failure", I am keeping a close eye on the steel lockbar insert. I welcomed this feature as it should reduce rate of wear at the tang-to-lockbar interface and it opens the possibility of replacement/renewal that is difficult with a Reeve-style integral lock.
However, it is a possible point of failure if the insert loosens, or was not fully seated at assembly (dirt behind the plate, burred edge, etc.) or perhaps in the OPs case it was simply out of spec?
Someone mentioned that this knife should have had an arrangement to prevent overextension of the lock bar. IT DOES! The steel lockbar insert extends beyond the lock bar into a recess on the inner surface of the non-locking portion of the scale. This simple and elegant design protects the lock bar hinge.
Anyway, if I notice any issues with the lock bar insert loosening or other issues , I'll post about it, as well as contacting Spyderco. I hope others will post objective experiences about Spyderco knives without fear of being trampled; shiny footprints are no good if they're across your back!
Agreed That's why a bit of thought beforehand is a very good thing I'm not trying to chide DC, just inform that how you post is often as important as what in this fickle medium ..........percieved anger begets more anger and a defensive posture........chuck_roxas45 wrote:Anytime you put something out there, you run the risk of getting something you don't want. You takes the good with the bad.
Sorry I was so abrasive with the tone of my post. That's my fault. Apologies. The tone of your post may have affected the tone of my post.DCDesigns wrote:WOW< I log out for one day, come back to 6 new pages of nonsense, most not relevent to the tuff at all. Im probably gonna end up closing this one...
Where are you getting this? You know, I have to apologize, I didnt see you standing there that day. I would have offered you a cookie!
I didnt do anything you claim, the forces involved were miniscule, and FYI, there is a stop block built into the steel insert on the lock bar that keeps you from flexing it.
I gave plenty of information if youd actually read it.
Not really, the knife will have to be looked at by Spyderco to determine what happened...dbcad wrote:More detailed information would be useful
His 200+$ knife failed on him, he is lucky to still have his fingers on and you want him to throw flowers around loldbcad wrote:If a post is percieved as angry, the chances of a defensive and negative reply are greatly increased
When will Spyderco be evaluating the knife?? It's time for some objective root cause fact to be interjected here
Flowers are a good idea, especially considering DC still has his fingersthelock wrote:His 200+$ knife failed on him, he is lucky to still have his fingers on and you want him to throw flowers around lol
It would be fun to see some statistics of which knives are being sent back the most due to lock problems.