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Delica, what's your preferred grind?

Postby Clip » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:21 pm

Hey guys, looking to add a ZDP Delica to my little collection. I've found two, the SC11PGRE (sabre grind, I think) and the C11PGRE (FFG).

Wondered what grind you guys preferred, and what you found the advantages and disadvantages were. I've found some info but wanted to get the opinions of actual users, plus it seems like the Delica is definitely a knife with a good reputation around here :) .

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Postby Blerv » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:30 pm

My chores are pretty light. The FFG has a thinner tip and overall a thinner behind-the-edge profile than the flat-saber, half-flat or whatever you want to call the normal FRN grind. More rugged folks might prefer the less dainty grind (expecially in the tip).

I suspect the hollow-grind of the stainless model would be a nice mix but don't prefer SS knives.
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Postby Prospero » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:43 pm

I've had a ZDP-189 FFG Delica for about six months. It's an incredibly good slicer. I don't have a saber grind version for comparison but I can't possibly imagine it would cut any better than the FFG version. I don't use the knife hard; I only open envelopes and cut up boxes with it. During this time I've only stropped it regularly on some newspaper to keep it sharp. The only "con" I can think of is that the blade tip on the FFG won't be as strong if you were going to be really hard on it (prying, stabbing). Good luck w/ your purchase!

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Postby maa14 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 6:49 pm

My personal favorite is the FFG which still seems to be pretty sturdy but slices very well. like Blerv said though the normal half flat grind will be a bit tougher but wont slice as good. My ZDP delica is FFG and it seems perfect for the tasks that I use it for(cardboard, some food prep, opening packages, etc.)

And there is a reason for the delica's great reputation :cool:

Edit: Also ZDP is some awsome stuff just keep it touched up and dont let it get dull or it can be a pain to sharpen :)

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Postby Fishstalker » Sun Apr 01, 2012 7:04 pm

I searched and searched last year and finally found a FFG Delica ZDP. I'm glad I did. ZDP-189 is Amazing.
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Postby michaelm466 » Sun Apr 01, 2012 8:02 pm

I had a Saber Grind ZDP Delica and found it to be too thick behind the edge, Once I had to reprofile it, I had to take a lot of steel off to get the angle I wanted, I definitely say go with the FFG.

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Postby sir_mike » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:06 pm

I had both and prefer the FFG model, it is just a great slicer. The only reason for me to have the Saber grind one is if I plan or think I will pry something with it, which I never did.

Go with the FFG one, you wont be sorry!

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Postby Halfneck » Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:48 pm

I have a SE ZDP-189 & a FFG PE Delica. I find myself grabbing the SE ZDP-189 Delica more. I use my Delica as a beater knife & the FFG, while an incredible slicer, has a very thin tip that would worry me.
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Postby Mr Blonde » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:21 am

I just got a FFG ZDPP189 Delica to replace my trusty saberground ZDP189 Delica. For a steel like ZDP189 I prefer a nice thin edge and blade.The ZDP performs really well, so I can give it a thin edge that holds. The sabergrind was sometimes -especially for ZDP189- disappointing as it gives more drag when cutting.

For a 'beater' knife I'd suggest a sabergrind, maybe even VG-10 rather than ZDP189.
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Postby jackknifeh » Mon Apr 02, 2012 6:18 am

I've had both and for my needs the FFG is much better. Actually for my needs I don't like the saber grind at all. Give me the FFG or hollow grind all day long. FFG is more a more consistant grind but the hollow is thinner behind the edge sometimes. Then it gets thicker towards the spine. This makes a hollow grind really great for slicing thin material IMO. Unless I'm chopping or something I don't care for the saber grind and I won't be doing serious chopping with an EDC knife. I have done some light chopping with my Manix2 FFG and am happy to say it did great.

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Postby phillipsted » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:05 am

I agree that FFG with ZDP-189 is much better - and I buy most of my ZDP blades in this configuration. However, I have a soft spot in my heart for the sabre-ground green Delica. I carry it with me when I go camping - it is one of my "around camp" knives. It keeps a great edge the entire week and I feel it has a bit more heft for outdoors tasks. :cool: I also take along (at minimum) one of my Para2s, a Mule, and a Salt.

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Postby Donut » Mon Apr 02, 2012 8:08 am

I prefer FFG, but I do light duty cutting.
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Postby dbcad » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:31 pm

Different grinds, different characteristics, different uses and advantages to each.

When I bought my last Delica I opted for the CE SG to compliment the FFG model. VG-10 takes a really sweet edge :D
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Postby Clip » Mon Apr 02, 2012 2:33 pm

dbcad wrote:VG-10 takes a really sweet edge :D
NOW you've got me thinking I need a VG-10 AND a ZDP. Oh well, guess it was inevitable.
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Postby kennethsime » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:19 pm

Go for the FFG ZDP. If you want a good slicer that stays sharp, that's it.

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Postby JAfromMN » Mon Apr 02, 2012 3:22 pm

I haven't had a ffg delica yet. I have stuck to saber grind because it's a stronger knife.
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I got a thing for stainless steel and frn ....

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Postby thofmann » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:45 am

Considering the fact that I will never find myself hacking through the jungle, batoning through trees, or prying open car doors with one of my Delicas, I prefer the FFG. It slices better for me. Now, if I had abusive tendencies, which I don't, it does "seem" like my Sabre Grind VG-10 Delica would endure a little more hard use than my FFG ZDP-189 Delica.

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Postby Evil D » Tue Apr 03, 2012 11:56 am

I don't own a FFG Delica, but i suspect i would like its performance more than the saber grind that i have. But, i do like the way a saber grind looks...it just has more character. I also like the strong tip. I'd love to see the FFG without a distal taper.

If you have a saber and wanna play around with it, you can do a super low back bevel like i did, which helps slicing quite a bit (at least until you hit the flat part of the grind).

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Postby sir_mike » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:27 pm

If I were afraid of breaking the tip off while doing something like prying, then I would go with a Saber grind but seeing I dont use a Delica for prying, I will stay with the FFG models. Unfortuneately, I really like the PM2's better so these are just sitting in a drawer awaiting new owners! :)

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Postby Evil D » Tue Apr 03, 2012 12:39 pm

sir_mike wrote:If I were afraid of breaking the tip off while doing something like prying, then I would go with a Saber grind but seeing I dont use a Delica for prying, I will stay with the FFG models. Unfortuneately, I really like the PM2's better so these are just sitting in a drawer awaiting new owners! :)
It's really not about prying. Most of the broken tips i've read about are from accidental droppings where the tip breaks on impact.
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