Greetings,
I'm hoping to attended MBC 3&4 in Sept. I was wonder two things:
1) Have enough people registered that is going to happen? I'm flying in and can't return my tickets.
2) Is there any chance of a CBC class on Friday?
Gavin
MBC 3 & 4 Sept. 14 & 15?
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Dear Gavin:
I floated the idea of a September CBC class when we first discussed it on the forum a while back. To my knowledge, nobody expressed interest in it so it was never scheduled. Presently, family commitments preclude a class on that Friday. Sorry.
As far as travel reservations, I have made it a personal policy to not cancel classes if someone has already purchased airline tickets. The September classes will therefore go on as planned. As for CBC, if the class stays small (or if we get a good group of motivated people), I'll squeeze it into Level 4.
Thanks for your continued interest in the MBC program. I look forward to training with you again in September.
Stay safe,
mike j
I floated the idea of a September CBC class when we first discussed it on the forum a while back. To my knowledge, nobody expressed interest in it so it was never scheduled. Presently, family commitments preclude a class on that Friday. Sorry.
As far as travel reservations, I have made it a personal policy to not cancel classes if someone has already purchased airline tickets. The September classes will therefore go on as planned. As for CBC, if the class stays small (or if we get a good group of motivated people), I'll squeeze it into Level 4.
Thanks for your continued interest in the MBC program. I look forward to training with you again in September.
Stay safe,
mike j
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Dear Terry:
CBC stands for "Counter-Blade Craft" and it is my term for the segment of my curriculum that deals with countering an edged-weapon threat. Thi involves both empty-hand tactics and the use of improvised weapons and uses the same body mechanics as the MBC knife-oriented stuff.
The four basic phases of MBC are:
1) Deflect and Counter - a hit-and-run defense based on the live hand movements of MBC
2) Control and Counter - this centers around a 7-position drill that allows you to control the attacker's knife-wielding limb while you (and/or a partner) disable him with strikes. This same drill and its component techniques can also be used to destroy the attacker's limb before breaking contact.
3) Returning Blade - these techniques involve controlling the weapon limb and turning the blade against the attacker while it is still in his grasp.
4) Improvised Weapon Defenses - this phase turns Martial BLADE Craft into MARTIAL CRAFT, adapting the movements of the core MBC knife system to everyday objects. With proper awareness and/or planning, these techniques make it so that you are never unarmed.
All of these phases can stand alone, but like everything else in MBC, they are designed to flow together. As such, an empty-hand or improvised weapon response also serves as a bridging technique to the draw and applicatin of a purspose-designed weapon such as a knife, ASP, or firearm. With this approach, the elements of this system also form the foundation of a very effective close-quarter shooting and weapon-retention system.
The idea of CBC is to provide a stand-alone course for people who are concerned about edged-weapon threats, but may not be authorized to carry an edged-weapon themselves (like most law enforcement officers). Since it is a stand-alone, unlike MBC Levels 1-4, there are no prerequisites for participating in CBC. Like MBC Levels 1-4, it will be available at the Spyderco headquarters and for off-site instruction.
If you are interested in CBC, please make your interest known on this public forum. Phone calls and e-mails directly to Spyderco sometimes don't reach the right people and proper follow-ups can be delayed.
Thanks for your interest.
Stay safe,
mike j
CBC stands for "Counter-Blade Craft" and it is my term for the segment of my curriculum that deals with countering an edged-weapon threat. Thi involves both empty-hand tactics and the use of improvised weapons and uses the same body mechanics as the MBC knife-oriented stuff.
The four basic phases of MBC are:
1) Deflect and Counter - a hit-and-run defense based on the live hand movements of MBC
2) Control and Counter - this centers around a 7-position drill that allows you to control the attacker's knife-wielding limb while you (and/or a partner) disable him with strikes. This same drill and its component techniques can also be used to destroy the attacker's limb before breaking contact.
3) Returning Blade - these techniques involve controlling the weapon limb and turning the blade against the attacker while it is still in his grasp.
4) Improvised Weapon Defenses - this phase turns Martial BLADE Craft into MARTIAL CRAFT, adapting the movements of the core MBC knife system to everyday objects. With proper awareness and/or planning, these techniques make it so that you are never unarmed.
All of these phases can stand alone, but like everything else in MBC, they are designed to flow together. As such, an empty-hand or improvised weapon response also serves as a bridging technique to the draw and applicatin of a purspose-designed weapon such as a knife, ASP, or firearm. With this approach, the elements of this system also form the foundation of a very effective close-quarter shooting and weapon-retention system.
The idea of CBC is to provide a stand-alone course for people who are concerned about edged-weapon threats, but may not be authorized to carry an edged-weapon themselves (like most law enforcement officers). Since it is a stand-alone, unlike MBC Levels 1-4, there are no prerequisites for participating in CBC. Like MBC Levels 1-4, it will be available at the Spyderco headquarters and for off-site instruction.
If you are interested in CBC, please make your interest known on this public forum. Phone calls and e-mails directly to Spyderco sometimes don't reach the right people and proper follow-ups can be delayed.
Thanks for your interest.
Stay safe,
mike j
I'll get the ball rolling again. . .
I got some exposure to the CBC curriculum during the MBC level 4 class a while back. Great material to learn in itself & it's consistent with the rest of Mr. Janich's system, which makes it more readily absorbable (is that a word?) than if one were to try to study one style of combat for empty-hand application, and another for knives or other weapons.
The class consensus was that there was just too much good stuff there to limit it to only a couple hours' worth of practice. We were--and are--all excited at the prospect of a dedicated CBC session.
For anyone unfamiliar w/Michael Janich I offer the following: His combination of martial training, real-world experience, and teaching ability make him a rare resource to those of us seeking such knowledge. He's down-to-earth & approachable & free of the all-too-prevalent "expert's ego" found throughout the martial arts world. He's one of only a couple insructors I know whom I recommend even to my non-martial-artist friends.
So sign up yourself, your buddy, your girlfriend and/or wife, and even your I-don't-have-to-worry-about-knives-because-I'd-just-shoot-the-guy friend. You'll be glad you did!
Thank me later,
Vince
(did I mention it's fun, too?)
I got some exposure to the CBC curriculum during the MBC level 4 class a while back. Great material to learn in itself & it's consistent with the rest of Mr. Janich's system, which makes it more readily absorbable (is that a word?) than if one were to try to study one style of combat for empty-hand application, and another for knives or other weapons.
The class consensus was that there was just too much good stuff there to limit it to only a couple hours' worth of practice. We were--and are--all excited at the prospect of a dedicated CBC session.
For anyone unfamiliar w/Michael Janich I offer the following: His combination of martial training, real-world experience, and teaching ability make him a rare resource to those of us seeking such knowledge. He's down-to-earth & approachable & free of the all-too-prevalent "expert's ego" found throughout the martial arts world. He's one of only a couple insructors I know whom I recommend even to my non-martial-artist friends.
So sign up yourself, your buddy, your girlfriend and/or wife, and even your I-don't-have-to-worry-about-knives-because-I'd-just-shoot-the-guy friend. You'll be glad you did!
Thank me later,
Vince
(did I mention it's fun, too?)
Hi Mike,
Can you elaborate on this?
"2) Control and Counter - this centers around a 7-position drill that allows you to control the attacker's knife-wielding limb while you (and/or a partner) disable him with strikes. This same drill and its component techniques can also be used to destroy the attacker's limb before breaking contact."
I like drills, is this ones I may have done/heard of before?
ps: What happened to your regular columns? I think explaining this drill would make a great #11<?>.
Gavin
Edited by - Mr.Skin on 7/13/2002 9:26:32 PM
Can you elaborate on this?
"2) Control and Counter - this centers around a 7-position drill that allows you to control the attacker's knife-wielding limb while you (and/or a partner) disable him with strikes. This same drill and its component techniques can also be used to destroy the attacker's limb before breaking contact."
I like drills, is this ones I may have done/heard of before?
ps: What happened to your regular columns? I think explaining this drill would make a great #11<?>.
Gavin
Edited by - Mr.Skin on 7/13/2002 9:26:32 PM
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Dear Gavin:
You probably haven't done this drill before, since I created it. However, you probably have done isolated elements of it. Basically, you block angle 1 and control with an elbow wrap and pressure to the upper arm. Pass and flow to angle 2. Block angle 2 and armbar. If the armbar fails, flow up to figure 4. Back out to armbar, pas to angle 3. Block angle 3, wrap under and control with armbar/compression. Pass to angle 4. Block angle 4 and armbar with hook from below. If this fails, flow up to figure 4. Back out to armbar, partner withdraws to thrust angle 5. Catch at elbow, slide out to upward armbar/break. He retracts again, catch at elbow, feed to your left side and back to position 1.
As you can see, there's a lot to this. At the more advanced level, you enter the drill at any point from passing/checking and focus on limb destructions and secondary striking to blow out the low line and set up throws. Please forgive the cursory explanation, but a more thorough job would require a small book.
As for the columns, when the last few I did received no response, I took a hiatus to see if anyone was paying attention. You're the first one to mourn their passing. If there's a consistent interest, I'll do more, but writing for the sake of writing doesn't appeal to me.
Since you're interested and have a very good martial arts foundation, I'd be happy to spend some time on this drill when you come out in September. Even though it doesn't seem there's adequate interest for a formal CBC class, I'd also be open to doing some private instruction on this if you like.
Thanks for your interest.
Stay safe,
mike j
You probably haven't done this drill before, since I created it. However, you probably have done isolated elements of it. Basically, you block angle 1 and control with an elbow wrap and pressure to the upper arm. Pass and flow to angle 2. Block angle 2 and armbar. If the armbar fails, flow up to figure 4. Back out to armbar, pas to angle 3. Block angle 3, wrap under and control with armbar/compression. Pass to angle 4. Block angle 4 and armbar with hook from below. If this fails, flow up to figure 4. Back out to armbar, partner withdraws to thrust angle 5. Catch at elbow, slide out to upward armbar/break. He retracts again, catch at elbow, feed to your left side and back to position 1.
As you can see, there's a lot to this. At the more advanced level, you enter the drill at any point from passing/checking and focus on limb destructions and secondary striking to blow out the low line and set up throws. Please forgive the cursory explanation, but a more thorough job would require a small book.
As for the columns, when the last few I did received no response, I took a hiatus to see if anyone was paying attention. You're the first one to mourn their passing. If there's a consistent interest, I'll do more, but writing for the sake of writing doesn't appeal to me.
Since you're interested and have a very good martial arts foundation, I'd be happy to spend some time on this drill when you come out in September. Even though it doesn't seem there's adequate interest for a formal CBC class, I'd also be open to doing some private instruction on this if you like.
Thanks for your interest.
Stay safe,
mike j
Hi Mike,
Please don't interpret the lack of response to your columns as lack of interest. I thought they were one of the most valuable parts of this forum. I suspect that others, like myself, just don't feel qualified to add anything to your expert observations. You can be assured that if you write them, they'll be read.
Best regards,
Argyll
Edited by - argyll on 7/15/2002 11:28:40 AM
Please don't interpret the lack of response to your columns as lack of interest. I thought they were one of the most valuable parts of this forum. I suspect that others, like myself, just don't feel qualified to add anything to your expert observations. You can be assured that if you write them, they'll be read.
Best regards,
Argyll
Edited by - argyll on 7/15/2002 11:28:40 AM
Mr. Janich,
I too, have missed your regular MBC columns. I don't think the lack of response to them has anything to do with lack of interest. I just think that people are reluctant to post a long list of "I agree", or "Thanks for the great info" posts. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
I have them all printed and bound for easy reading/re-reading at anytime. Your writings, in print and online are, IMHO, some of the most valuable resources available to serious martial artists, LEO's and people concerned about their personal safety. After reading your books and articles, and viewing your videos, the MBC columns are a welcome "bonus" for those that hang out here.
Please don't feel like you have to produce a full blown MBC column on a regular schedule. A little nugget of wisdom every "blue moon" is more than sufficient. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Steve
I too, have missed your regular MBC columns. I don't think the lack of response to them has anything to do with lack of interest. I just think that people are reluctant to post a long list of "I agree", or "Thanks for the great info" posts. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
I have them all printed and bound for easy reading/re-reading at anytime. Your writings, in print and online are, IMHO, some of the most valuable resources available to serious martial artists, LEO's and people concerned about their personal safety. After reading your books and articles, and viewing your videos, the MBC columns are a welcome "bonus" for those that hang out here.
Please don't feel like you have to produce a full blown MBC column on a regular schedule. A little nugget of wisdom every "blue moon" is more than sufficient. <img src="smile.gif" width=15 height=15 align=middle border=0>
Steve
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Thanks to everyone for your kind words and interest in the columns, and special thanks to Mr. V for his detailed comments about me and the MBC program.
Now that I'm sure that the columns are serving the right people, I'll do my best to offer more. Any special requests for topics?
Thanks again to you all.
Stay safe,
mike j
Now that I'm sure that the columns are serving the right people, I'll do my best to offer more. Any special requests for topics?
Thanks again to you all.
Stay safe,
mike j
Thanks for your answer Mr. Janich.
I too would be interested in your MBC columns.I would assume their are alot of people like me who read the forum alot,but do not post often.
In the future,The MBC classes are on my radar,
but have to save the money,would the CBC still be being offered in the future.
Thanks,Terry
I too would be interested in your MBC columns.I would assume their are alot of people like me who read the forum alot,but do not post often.
In the future,The MBC classes are on my radar,
but have to save the money,would the CBC still be being offered in the future.
Thanks,Terry
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